TheGodfather Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 ...and hope he "goes on a run"... As is made clear in the statistics above, how is a player whos longest 'run' of first team starts is 11 in 3 years at the Club (in which, as also highlighted above, he scored 4 goals) to be expected to "go on a run" of scoring goals as you put it? And that's if you don't consider 5 in 12 (he scored in his appearance before those 11 games as a substitute) "going on a run". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoOn Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 You know what grinds my gears? You dare to give your opinion on a player on here and people decide to flame you and call you allsorts. Even if you're opinion is genuine or correct. I'm not scared so here's mine. He is very poor at a lot of things in the game which infuriates fans, Yes his paper goal ratio looks better than most around him.......... Yes he is the 2nd most prolific striker at our club which proves only one thing WE HAVE A poo poo STRIKE FORCE AT OUR CLUB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 The fact he hasn't ever been considered good enough for the starting 11 tells you a lot about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 As is made clear in the statistics above, how is a player whos longest 'run' of first team starts is 11 in 3 years at the Club (in which, as also highlighted above, he scored 4 goals) to be expected to "go on a run" of scoring goals as you put it? And that's if you don't consider 5 in 12 (he scored in his appearance before those 11 games as a substitute) "going on a run". Not good value for money, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 yes, now. How much did Peterborough & doncaster pay for them intially? Not as much as we paid for Leon, franny and are about to pay Varney. Especially when wages are taken into account. How much did we pay for Grant, Tudgay etc etc etc and how much are they worth now? The merry-go-round is just that - you win on some you lose on some.You're looking increasingly desperate to justify your argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodfather Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 The fact he hasn't ever been considered good enough for the starting 11 tells you a lot about him. Not good value for money, then! Is that an accusation that can be laid at Clarke's door? The facts show that when he's played, he's scored goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 How much did we pay for Grant, Tudgay etc etc etc and how much are they worth now? The merry-go-round is just that - you win on some you lose on some. You're looking increasingly desperate to justify your argument You win some and lose some in the transfer market, but you don't stick with the ones you have lost on! There are strikers out there who could do his job better and for less money. These players are being turned up by other clubs, but not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Is that an accusation that can be laid at Clarke's door? Yes! Why isn't he knocking on the managers door armed with these stats, demanding to start? Because he clearly isn't good enough in training or the manager would pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Is that an accusation that can be laid at Clarke's door?Partly, yes!Only one way to shut the doubters up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 oh roger off. Where did he say he was the new hirsty? He played well. End of. Not realy though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 You win some and lose some in the transfer market, but you don't stick with the ones you have lost on! There are strikers out there who could do his job better and for less money. These players are being turned up by other clubs, but not ours. How have we lost on Clarke?As already pointed out - only one player has scored more than Clarke in the last season and a half. How do you know what he's costing - and is it more than Jeffers? Sodje? Johnson? Varney? Tell me who will do more for less money (especially after you've told us what he's getting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodfather Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Yes! Why isn't he knocking on the managers door armed with these stats, demanding to start? Because he clearly isn't good enough in training or the manager would pick him. I see. So now not only are you chosing to ignore stats as put to you, but you're also now making sweeping assumptions about a player's behaviour behind the scenes? Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 How have we lost on Clarke? As already pointed out - only one player has scored more than Clarke in the last season and a half. How do you know what he's costing - and is it more than Jeffers? Sodje? Johnson? Varney? Tell me who will do more for less money (especially after you've told us what he's getting). Mmmmmm! I'll think about that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Wylde Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 That same feeling I get coming down Herries Road under the Five Arches seeing the ground every time. Its the same now as it was when I was six. Many times Ive been asked what it feels like by non-football and non-Wednesday fans, but the best I can come up with is, 'This is me, and all this is mine' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Mmmmmm! I'll think about that one?Tell Alan Irvine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Tell Alan IrvineHow can I do that if we don't know what he's on and who we could get for less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 How can I do that if we don't know what he's on and who we could get for less? And THERE is the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 How have we lost on Clarke? As already pointed out - only one player has scored more than Clarke in the last season and a half. How do you know what he's costing - and is it more than Jeffers? Sodje? Johnson? Varney? Tell me who will do more for less money (especially after you've told us what he's getting). Sadly I'm not a professional scout. But fortunatley Wednesday do have them. Although I'm not privy to Leon's contract negotiations, or indeed those of lower league players, I think it's a fair assumption that Leon is on a higher weekly salary than the top paid player in the Blue Square Premier. Just out of interest; When did Wolves sign Michael Kightly? I think it would be laughable if they actually used the money from Leon to buy someone like that. With regards Sodje, Varney and Jeffers; when did I say they represented value for money to the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I see. So now not only are you chosing to ignore stats as put to you, but you're also now making sweeping assumptions about a player's behaviour behind the scenes? Got it. Why has he never been a first team regular in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manwithastick Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 You know what grinds my gears? You dare to give your opinion on a player on here and people decide to flame you and call you allsorts. Even if you're opinion is genuine or correct. I'm not scared so here's mine. He is very poor at a lot of things in the game which infuriates fans, Yes his paper goal ratio looks better than most around him.......... Yes he is the 2nd most prolific striker at our club which proves only one thing WE HAVE A poo poo STRIKE FORCE AT OUR CLUB! ^^^^^^^THIS can i also just say, Grandads opinion is invalid. As a blackberry user he is far too comfortable with mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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