Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Once there is some evidence that your statement carries any truth what so ever will I ever doubt Mandaric. Then you should remember / bookmark this for in 2 years time should this takeover go through, I would personally respect Milan more if he was to put up the for sale sign again while these so called discussions were still on-going.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I don't have a problem with MM and I do think his heart is in the right place. But Pompey fans don't think he left them in good shape The seeds of their downfall were sown by MM Scram, I didn't have a problem with Milan either, on the contrary I really supported and believed in him, he has got our club back on its feet, of that I have no doubt. However I do believe having been lulled into thinking this guy was the one to take us forward he is now backed into a corner that he can't (and possibly doesn't want to) get out of, he obviously wants to get rid for personal reasons and I don't think the vast majority of us would begrudge him that. I am just very concerned that this is now no longer in the best interest of the club, never mind us fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 You want him to tout the "for sale" sign up whilst he has just completed due diligence with another party? Are you on the sauce?? I am now yes but wasn't earlier, I have to say I don't trust this Mammadov fella, he's far too dodgy, Rolex watches, late payments, "don't cross him or he'll walk away" threats. For me let him go, I aint seen anything to say he's going to spend big and I don't think you have ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I think we have a team that is good enough to damage champ teams but as SG says. We have 5 games in a month and most of the team are already struggling with knocks. Betra and co better be ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike312 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The one set by Milan FFS...So all them players left and two came in, admitedly on higher wages and took up all that budget? I fail to believe that between mm and hm they couldn't arrange an interim budget knowing how important the pre-season is. They are both taking a massive risk of us being cast adrift before the takeover (which I do believe will happen and for the better) which I can't believe business men would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Scram, I didn't have a problem with Milan either, on the contrary I really supported and believed in him, he has got our club back on its feet, of that I have no doubt. However I do believe having been lulled into thinking this guy was the one to take us forward he is now backed into a corner that he can't (and possibly doesn't want to) get out of, he obviously wants to get rid for personal reasons and I don't think the vast majority of us would begrudge him that. I am just very concerned that this is now no longer in the best interest of the club, never mind us fans... I don't think we are disagreeing Was just pointing out that i'm not too convinced that MM is overly bothered about the suitability of the next owner as much as he is about his profit margin Hence the Pompey scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I am just very concerned that this is now no longer in the best interest of the club That is my main concern. The takeover delay has gone beyond the point of just impacting on our pre-season; Gray has revealed we've now started to miss out on players because of it - and that's a far greater issue than starting the new campaign with players that aren't quite up to speed. If Mammadov is plan A and Milan plan B, I suspect Milan authorised the signings of Hutch, Westwood, and the out of contract trio because they all fit into either scenario. But now comes the time when we must commit to A or B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 So all them players left and two came in, admitedly on higher wages and took up all that budget? I fail to believe that between mm and hm they couldn't arrange an interim budget knowing how important the pre-season is. They are both taking a MASSIVE risk of us being cast adrift before the takeover (which I do believe will happen and for the better) which I can't believe business men would do. You might think some contingency plan could have been worked out It rather suggests to me, that neither of them is particularly confident of the takeover happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Owl Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Has anyone got a link to him saying this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Has anyone got a link to him saying this? To who saying what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Can you show me an example of where a takeover has happened and being ratified in less than 6 weeks?? Why? Are you trying to suggest this delay is normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike312 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Can you show me an example of where a takeover has happened and being ratified in less than 6 weeks??Exactly. If we know it takes longer, mm must know. Surely there must have been a conversation mentioning that it will drag on into the season and what are we (mmm & hm) going to do about it. I can't believe they have just thought sod it we'll get by with the players we have until it goes through. A few key injuries and we're screwed imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryBell Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Feel for Gray because it'll be him that gets f""ked off when we have a poor start. Not the business man who doesn't have the hindsight to see his delayed efforts to procure the club will leave us short in key areas. The inevitable crap we churn out during the months before Xmas, ahhhh how I've missed you. Writings on the wall. Good points - but don't you mean foresight (unless you are making a subtle observation that is totally beyond me, in which case I humbly apologise). Or maybe forsight - or some such saga. Edited July 27, 2014 by VictoryBell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spineynorman78 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I've heard a couple of people complaining that if this drags on for months we could end up being relegated by xmas and HM will pull the plug rather than buying a club that will start next season in league 1. I don't think MM will let that happen - he might be many things but the man is no fool, he won't put his faith in a false economy that would put a deal this lucrative at risk. If it drags on for months I can see him funding a couple of short term loans - or at the most a couple of short term deals for out of contract players, similar to McPhail, loovens etc last season - to keep us competitive/prevent us being 10 points adrift by the time the take over is completed. Anyone expecting or hoping for him to do anything more than that is going to be sadly disappointed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I'm suggesting nearer 12 weeks in the norm yet you think it should be done by now or this is very unusual. I ask you on the basis of other clubs takeovers why do you think that? When did I say it should be done by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Can you show me an example of where a takeover has happened and being ratified in less than 6 weeks?? watford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Charltons was done in 4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 You say commit to either A (Mamadov) or B Mandaric. So it's pick one or the other is it? We need to recruit according to plan A or B, yes. That does not equate to "think it should be done by now". The club statement made it quite clear the delays are specifically due to Mammadov's other business affairs. It's not a FL ratification delay - it's a Mamma delay; without which, perhaps it might be done by now. But that wasn't the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I don't think we are disagreeing Was just pointing out that i'm not too convinced that MM is overly bothered about the suitability of the next owner as much as he is about his profit margin Hence the Pompey scenario My apologies, guess there's a little concern everywhere at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) if you was in the process buying a house would you give the current owners money to get it how you wanted it before signing the contract of conveyance ..... No you wouldnt , but if you were selling you would make sure the property is well maintained and in good working order whilst you are waiting for the sale to be completed . Edited July 27, 2014 by S36 OWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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