Blue and white Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 For sale, One MASSIVE football club starved of financial backing and success. Has potential to be top 5 premiership team with the right investment. Huge history and MASSIVE fan base, Potential financial returns unimaginable to the right person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Doesn't matter how big your bank account is if you can't spend it (FFP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Top 5 Premiership team Big l0lz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Doesn't matter how big your bank account is if you can't spend it (FFP) Yeah I forgot, its seems to be stopping loads of clubs spending stupid money doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Yeah I forgot, its seems to be stopping loads of clubs spending stupid money doesn't it. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Top 5 Premiership team Big l0lz Whats daft about that.Do you honeslty think Man City and Chelsea would be were they are without the backing they have, I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beloved_aunt Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Please note. Under FFP rules in the Championship clubs cannot make a loss of more than £8million in a season. If they do they face a fine or a points docking. So even if Bill Gates took over he wouldn't be able to plow billions into the team. Unless we're going to suddenly sell another 10k season tickets, or sell sponsorship naming of the stadium for a MASSIVE amount of money we ain't gonna be able to buy our way out of the Championship anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Who? QPR in our league, usual suspects in the prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyowl Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 For sale, One MASSIVE football club starved of financial backing and success. Has potential to be top 5 premiership team with the right investment. Huge history and MASSIVE fan base, Potential financial returns unimaginable to the right person. Bit optimistic mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Bit optimistic mate.Why is he So many born losers on here its frightening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) QPR in our league, usual suspects in the prem Selling Samba for £12m helps, and FFP not applicable to Prem. Edit: £105m loss over 3 seasons in Prem. That buys some leeway. Edited August 7, 2013 by bigrbuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Please note. Under FFP rules in the Championship clubs cannot make a loss of more than £8million in a season. If they do they face a fine or a points docking. So even if Bill Gates took over he wouldn't be able to plow billions into the team. Unless we're going to suddenly sell another 10k season tickets, or sell sponsorship naming of the stadium for a MASSIVE amount of money we ain't gonna be able to buy our way out of the Championship anytime soon. Or get a massive sponsorship deal by the owners mate dog.There are loop holes there to be exploited big style snd any good business man will have these sussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beloved_aunt Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Yeah I forgot, its seems to be stopping loads of clubs spending stupid money doesn't it. Who? Remember QPR and company have parachute payments. FFP in this division restricts the losses you can make not the amount you can spend, so because they're getting so much more income from the prem TV deals they can buy the likes of Austin without making a loss. The club needs more income before anything will change. Our wage bill is currently running at 80% of turnover, this is utterly unsustainable as anyone in business will tell you and is recognised as such by the fact that FFP in L1 and L2 means you can only spend 60% of turnover on wages to stop clubs going bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Whats daft about that.Do you honeslty think Man City and Chelsea would be were they are without the backing they have, I think not. No they wouldnt, but look at all the money being pumped in to Liverpool, a much bigger, more famous and globally marketable club than ours, and they are consistently finishing 7th in the premier league. It would take huge investment, but there is potential for Wednesday to become a premiership club again, but regulars in European competition, not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Bit optimistic mate. Why is it, Do you honestly think Man City or Chelsea would be anywhere near the teams they are today without multi billionaire owners, of cause not.Man City would be lucky to be even in the prem to be fair. The trouble is people have been used to 20 years of dross and have lost our vision and ambition. It speaks volumes when treading water in this division is classed as success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 No they wouldnt, but look at all the money being pumped in to Liverpool, a much bigger, more famous and globally marketable club than ours, and they are consistently finishing 7th in the premier league. It would take huge investment, but there is potential for Wednesday to become a premiership club again, but regulars in European competition, not happening. That depends on the wealth of the owner, Liverpool can't compete with Chelsea or Man City who are indeed lesser clubs but have more wealth.End of the day money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beloved_aunt Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Why is it, Do you honestly think Man City or Chelsea would be anywhere near the teams they are today without multi billionaire owners, of cause not.Man City would be lucky to be even in the prem to be fair. The trouble is people have been used to 20 years of dross and have lost our vision and ambition. It speaks volumes when treading water in this division is classed as success. To an extent you have a point, I think we have lost our pride and ambition, and I do think we can get there. Unfortunately in this era of FFP (which is anything but fair, just allows the big boys to stay big and for their chairmen to make even more money for themselves) we will have to get there slowly. The clubs you should be looking to emulate are Swansea, WBA, Stoke etc who have all got into Europe without billionaire sugar daddies. There's absolutely no reason why we can't do the same, but expecting it to happen over night is just daft. They all got there after years of developing youth, trusting in good managers and spending sensibly. I think we're starting to do the same and this will become apparent in the years to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senwar Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Top 5 potential. You cite man city and Chelsea. Well for one, Chelsea being in London are far more fashionable than we ever will be (sadly now). Man City have a globally renowned rival meaning there's more to just buying them and pumping money into them. You then have Liverpool, Everton, Spurs, Arsenal to name a few. Even if we had money we'd struggle to compete with these for a very very long time. Such a simple game isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It's astonishing that so soon after the enormous problems we had so recently that some idiots (sorry, but a spade's a spade) are calling for the same sort of methodology that put us in that perilous position. And they don't appear to grasp the implications of the new financial rules either which only underlines their lack of credibility. If a team isn't sweeping all before it, some supporters always think the solution is to just spend money without even a fleeting thought for the potential consequences. If that was how easy it was, Leicester would have been promoted last season and Wolves certainly would not have gone down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Whats daft about that.Do you honeslty think Man City and Chelsea would be were they are without the backing they have, I think not. Think you're missing the point that was being made. You won't get clubs (below the PL) being able to spend stupid amounts of money now that FFP is in place and the whole point of it being introduced was to stop owners like the ones at Man City and Chelsea from inflating the market and killing off smaller clubs. Just look at Leicester for example. They haven't spent a penny in the summer and have only brought in a freebie from League One. The owners there have needed to cut their cloth accordingly. I think we've missed the boat with the whole billionaire thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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