lanzaroteowl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Back then we had some great players but until November '89 we were misfiring and struggling to find form. Then like now we had something missing Someone to knit it all together, someone to see a pass to the wings or direct to the forwards That person was John Sheridan. With the transfer window now shut who in our squad could step up and do that job? Abdi, Bannan, bring FF into center mid? Did we miss the boat Houlihan? Will this missing piece eventually cost us this season? Let's hope not Onwards and upwards to the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Fernando Forestieri in Central Midfield? No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, aeroswfc said: Fernando Forestieri in Central Midfield? No thank you. Clutching at straws I know. But stranger things have worked before, Paul Warhurst etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Who's Houlihan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfast owl lad Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 all that firepower we have,pity no bugger is about to supply them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Yeah cos 89/90 was such a great season after Sheridan joined..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Owling said: Who's Houlihan. Houlihan/Hourihan whatever, I'd be bothered to get it right if he'd signed for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Otto_Man said: Yeah cos 89/90 was such a great season after Sheridan joined..... It led to one of our best seasons we've had in my memory 90/91 It just all came together from his introduction. Just had too much to catch up that year Edited February 27, 2017 by lanzaroteowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, lanzaroteowl said: It led to one of our best seasons we've had in my memory 90/91 It just all came together from his introduction. Just had too much to catch up that year Afraid I don't put too much stock in your memory, not sure how we could simultaneously have had too much to catch up (in November), been relegated on goal difference in May and Shez's season been an unmitigated success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Otto_Man said: Afraid I don't put too much stock in your memory, not sure how we could simultaneously have had too much to catch up (in November), been relegated on goal difference in May and Shez's season been an unmitigated success. Never said that season was any sort of success, was saying the squad at the time was missing a link to bring it all together. Took until the following season for it to bear the ultimate fruit, but he was the link man we were missing I was just equating the need for such a player to bring together all the undoubted talent which we have at our disposal today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto_Man Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, lanzaroteowl said: Never said that season was any sort of success, was saying the squad at the time was missing a link to bring it all together. Took until the following season for it to bear the ultimate fruit, but he was the link man we were missing I was just equating the need for such a player to bring together all the undoubted talent which we have at our disposal today. You're remembering it wrong, Atkinson completely re-modeled the squad both during the season and after it and although Sheridan was a key part of the 1990/91 team his signing didn't bring the team together in the way you're suggesting. I'd argue the signings of player like Roland Nilsson, Phil King and Carlton Palmer during that season were just as important, so were the signings of players like Paul Williams, John Harkes and Danny Wilson at the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHOwl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 If i recall right we had started disastrously and recovered really well to the point where we played Spurs with about 9 or 10 games to go and could have gone 7th with a win. We lost 4-2 and apart from a draw at Wimbledon and a victory over Charlton we then lost every other game and went down on goal difference. Sheridan was part of that team as were most of the players that brought us back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 And the Blades and Leeds both went up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Not one of the current crop would get in 90/91 promotion team Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike1867 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 90/91 was all about little partnerships, Pearson/Shirtliff, King/Irish, Roland/Harkes or Wilson, Sheridan/Palmer, Hirst/Williams. Now tell me one partnership that is in our team week in, week out. Not one. That is where why we are playing the way we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, spike1867 said: 90/91 was all about little partnerships, Pearson/Shirtliff, King/Irish, Roland/Harkes or Wilson, Sheridan/Palmer, Hirst/Williams. Now tell me one partnership that is in our team week in, week out. Not one. That is where why we are playing the way we are. Bang on and it's been like that since the first game against Villa. The size of our squad is making this very difficult. If a new man came in I would expect a lot of players to be shipped out. We were at our best midway though last season with a tight squad and Hooper up front the missing piece. CC has been allowed to splurge and frankly has made a bit of a wee wee tail of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Otto_Man said: You're remembering it wrong, Atkinson completely re-modeled the squad both during the season and after it and although Sheridan was a key part of the 1990/91 team his signing didn't bring the team together in the way you're suggesting. I'd argue the signings of player like Roland Nilsson, Phil King and Carlton Palmer during that season were just as important, so were the signings of players like Paul Williams, John Harkes and Danny Wilson at the end of it. I'm with Lanzarote. Sheridan was the missing link. King, who signed at the same time was also a good signing as he formed a nice combination with Irish on the left. Carlton had signed the season before. It was a strange old season that one, we started terribly and then struggled to pick up results even when we played well (Liverpool away springs to mind). The main problem was that whilst we could put out a good XI any injuries to that XI and we were struggling. If my memory serves me right wasn't Worthington injured v Spurs which was the start of the bad run at the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, spike1867 said: 90/91 was all about little partnerships, Pearson/Shirtliff, King/Irish, Roland/Harkes or Wilson, Sheridan/Palmer, Hirst/Williams. Now tell me one partnership that is in our team week in, week out. Not one. That is where why we are playing the way we are. great post spike and those partnerships contribute to playing as a team something we are not really doing. The only partnership we have had this season is Lees and Loovens and, unfortunately, Lees has been out injured for a while. I would also add that it's the sign of a top manager who can put these combinations together and then bring them all together as a team. Big Ron was a master at that. Carlos needs to find these partnerships very quickly and get us playing as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 46 minutes ago, York_Owl said: I'm with Lanzarote. Sheridan was the missing link. King, who signed at the same time was also a good signing as he formed a nice combination with Irish on the left. Carlton had signed the season before. It was a strange old season that one, we started terribly and then struggled to pick up results even when we played well (Liverpool away springs to mind). The main problem was that whilst we could put out a good XI any injuries to that XI and we were struggling. If my memory serves me right wasn't Worthington injured v Spurs which was the start of the bad run at the end of the season? We seem to run out of steam and into a rut - it was the form at the start of the season that did for us which always had us under pressure. We just couldn't shake it and it got us in the end...we only just went down - just remember how awful the Forest game was..a disaster I can see something similar this season with us sliding away at the end - not sure if we have the staying power we had last season - it all feels so tired and incredibly hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, spike1867 said: 90/91 was all about little partnerships, Pearson/Shirtliff, King/Irish, Roland/Harkes or Wilson, Sheridan/Palmer, Hirst/Williams. Now tell me one partnership that is in our team week in, week out. Not one. That is where why we are playing the way we are. Westwood, Rhodes, Forestieri, Lees Edit, sorry half read your post and thought you'd said none of the current team would get in 90/91 Edited February 27, 2017 by Big Ron's Sovereign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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