Costello 77 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 It's a fudge to quell the rising rage of supporters to buy time because there's a deal happening imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: They don't Good well tell your mates then, they cant have all their pals on the panel...it isn't representative otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Dot said: Good well tell your mates then, they cant have all their pals on the panel...it isn't representative otherwise Theyre not my mates They're my employers OBVS 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Dot said: If they are picking people to frustrate the process then that is a concern, totally agree. I haven't seen that suggested. the only suggestion that I have seen is that the new trust want to pick everyone. Obviously I’m speculating. But the fact the Trust clearly have issues after only the first meeting in regards to the 6 selected would make it fair to assume something doesn’t quite add up. They want a process to pick everyone. Probably because they, and other groups used a process to pick their representative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just a reminder that the whole 'who gets picked' thing is about 0.000005% of any concern in that update Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: Theyre not my mates They're my employers OBVS I knew it told ya Dean and Nigel will be on with you soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Dot said: I knew it told ya Dean and Nigel will be on with you soon soon? They've been with us since day one It was our idea This is going to be even bigger than when the Owls Trust had that little cupboard in the ticket office Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, NeonLeon said: Obviously I’m speculating. But the fact the Trust clearly have issues after only the first meeting in regards to the 6 selected would make it fair to assume something doesn’t quite add up. They want a process to pick everyone. Probably because they, and other groups used a process to pick their representative. Maybe this is something that the trust want to clarify then? I read it that they are concerned that 6 members of the group were selected by the club, but the club did ask for representatives from other organisations to come forward? maybe the trust can clarify their concern that they are not in full control of who is on the "panel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: soon? They've been with us since day one It was our idea This is going to be even bigger than when the Owls Trust had that little cupboard in the ticket office Some of the others would be on soon, but they've not worked out how to use emails yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Dot said: Maybe this is something that the trust want to clarify then? I read it that they are concerned that 6 members of the group were selected by the club, but the club did ask for representatives from other organisations to come forward? maybe the trust can clarify their concern that they are not in full control of who is on the "panel" They don't need to You're literally the only human being on planet earth that's read/understood it the way you have Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Dot said: Some of the others would be on soon, but they've not worked out how to use emails yet All time classic statement Is that the one you've got minutes for? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: All time classic statement Is that the one you've got minutes for? Yes, amongst others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: It's a fudge to quell the rising rage of supporters to buy time because there's a deal happening imo. Any evidence / source for that or is it just a hunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: They don't need to You're literally the only human being on planet earth that's read/understood it the way you have "There are currently sixteen participants on the fans element of the panel and six have been chosen by the club, which undermines independence." Why would the club asking for people to email in from certain age groups and organisations undermine independence? surely asking for 16 people from the trust to form the group would undermine independence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesowl Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 It would seem from the OP that engaging with the fans is complete once the headline is written. This is no way to run an engagement forum. It is censored, secretive, and in no way actually delivers any actual engagement. It’s a gimmick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Dot said: "There are currently sixteen participants on the fans element of the panel and six have been chosen by the club, which undermines independence." Why would the club asking for people to email in from certain age groups and organisations undermine independence? surely asking for 16 people from the trust to form the group would undermine independence. Nobody (And definitely not the trust) have asked for the trust to pick everyone Anyway - it's the least important part of the Trust update Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: Nobody (And definitely not the trust) have asked for the trust to pick everyone Anyway - it's the least important part of the Trust update Its the one thats provoked most debate though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, crookesowl said: It would seem from the OP that engaging with the fans is complete once the headline is written. This is no way to run an engagement forum. It is censored, secretive, and in no way actually delivers any actual engagement. It’s a gimmick. They always are - without exception - and always have been I know from first hand experience of sitting through them, seeing nothing happen ever afterwards, and seeing them dropped and then started again as something 'new' by every chairman (apart from Lee Strafford that is who is the only chairman that's ever given a foooook about our fans) 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Remember that time Dave Allen had an engagement event in that room under the south stand, about 12 of us attended. 8 Were from Owlstalk it was when he spoke about Ndumbu-Nsungu and what a talent he was going to be. Imagine that on Zoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Dot said: Remember that time Dave Allen had an engagement event in that room under the south stand, about 12 of us attended. 8 Were from Owlstalk it was when he spoke about Ndumbu-Nsungu and what a talent he was going to be. Imagine that on Zoom I remember the photo with Nsugu and a certain radio presenter that we're not allowed tp publish The day after that photo was taken and put on here Nsungu never played for us again And yet the poor kid had no idea what he was even doing Player of the year too Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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