ArmchairOwl Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, s6 owl said: Its alrite we'll just have to sign Hourihane too Not sounding likely though that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Beholder said: Barnsley fans going ape shlt about us potentially nicking him. Reminds me of when we got Whelan and Brunt nicked off us when we were having a similar season to the one Barnsley is having. Whelan especially got stolen from us for 500k. Not quite the same. It was the season after our good season (the one where we finished 9th under Laws) that we lost both Brunt and Whelan. Brunt was sold in the summer to West Brom and we lost Whelan to Stoke for 500k in the January transfer window. By that time we were fighting to stay up in the division. Same old for Barnsley though. They've always had a knack of finding some rough diamonds or bringing through decent players. Unfortunately for them anyone half decent will eventually move. They've backed themselves into a corner with Winnal and Hourinhane's contractual situation though. Edited January 10, 2017 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francksongoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 100% DONE DEAL ANNOUNCED TOMORROW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just like when we pinched May from under the noses of Rotherham, I can see why they fecking hate us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungiedindle Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, Francksongoo said: 100% DONE DEAL ANNOUNCED TOMORROW It aint mate, he's not even spoken with us yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest domSWFC Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Francksongoo said: 100% DONE DEAL ANNOUNCED TOMORROW Want to believe you. But I think you're guessing, hoping that you may look ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francksongoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, OwlsOwlsOwls said: It aint mate, he's not even spoken with us yet. Got it on very good authority pal almost from the horses mouth Edited January 10, 2017 by Francksongoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francksongoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, domSWFC said: Want to believe you. But I think you're guessing, hoping that you may look ITK. Not guessing at all been talking with someone who has spoken with him tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 What type of striker is Winnall? Looks to have decent goal scoring record but I've never really seen him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 To all the people poo-pooing the idea of getting Hourihane, I'm about to make a very reductionist argument, but I think it kinda stands up to the test. If you look at our midfielders' past records, none of them get many assists. Bannan, Lee, etc never really get more than 4/5 assists a season at best. Wallace gets about half a dozen but they're normally helped with set-pieces, Abdi gets quite a few but low and behold hasn't played and god knows if he ever will. It means that the historical assist rate of players we get out on the pitch is quite low. And what happens? Very few killer balls, very few goals scored. Hourihane has what, 12 assists this season, of which like 7/8 are from open play? I know this is dead simple, but at the end of the day... if we're struggling to score goals (and he on his own has more than a third of the assists as we do goals throughout the entire team) maybe we need a lad that's used to getting assists? After all, if we signed 4 new strikers, all of whom only managed 4/5 goals a season at Champ level, we'd be thinking why on Earth are we signing strikers that have such a crap goalscoring record. So why not sign a midfielder or two that you know reliably play those killer balls. Just a thought and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Francksongoo said: Got it on very good authority pal almost from the horses mouth Is Van Nistelrooy his pal or his agent then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: To all the people poo-pooing the idea of getting Hourihane, I'm about to make a very reductionist argument, but I think it kinda stands up to the test. If you look at our midfielders' past records, none of them get many assists. Bannan, Lee, etc never really get more than 4/5 assists a season at best. Wallace gets about half a dozen but they're normally helped with set-pieces, Abdi gets quite a few but low and behold hasn't played and god knows if he ever will. It means that the historical assist rate of players we get out on the pitch is quite low. And what happens? Very few killer balls, very few goals scored. Hourihane has what, 12 assists this season, of which like 7/8 are from open play? I know this is dead simple, but at the end of the day... if we're struggling to score goals (and he on his own has more than a third of the assists as we do goals throughout the entire team) maybe we need a lad that's used to getting assists? After all, if we signed 4 new strikers, all of whom only managed 4/5 goals a season at Champ level, we'd be thinking why on Earth are we signing strikers that have such a crap goalscoring record. So why not sign a midfielder or two that you know reliably play those killer balls. Just a thought and all that... A B D I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francksongoo Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, MAL said: Is Van Nistelrooy his pal or his agent then. Why the long face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieowl Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Re: FFS Re. Winnall My same mate has just been told as well not by one of our players that deal is agreed Winnall to be announced tomorrow. Could not happen just thought i'd put it out there. Hope it doesn't happen though. He is in the know though at Sheff and told me Forestieri was signing a contract a week or so before he did so make of it what you will and please don't shoot the messenger. I'm very happy to be wrong if that turns out to be the case. Is it just me or does this not read right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest domSWFC Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: To all the people poo-pooing the idea of getting Hourihane, I'm about to make a very reductionist argument, but I think it kinda stands up to the test. If you look at our midfielders' past records, none of them get many assists. Bannan, Lee, etc never really get more than 4/5 assists a season at best. Wallace gets about half a dozen but they're normally helped with set-pieces, Abdi gets quite a few but low and behold hasn't played and god knows if he ever will. It means that the historical assist rate of players we get out on the pitch is quite low. And what happens? Very few killer balls, very few goals scored. Hourihane has what, 12 assists this season, of which like 7/8 are from open play? I know this is dead simple, but at the end of the day... if we're struggling to score goals (and he on his own has more than a third of the assists as we do goals throughout the entire team) maybe we need a lad that's used to getting assists? After all, if we signed 4 new strikers, all of whom only managed 4/5 goals a season at Champ level, we'd be thinking why on Earth are we signing strikers that have such a crap goalscoring record. So why not sign a midfielder or two that you know reliably play those killer balls. Just a thought and all that... We do have a very creative player, that gets assists. Forestieri. If he was shifted back to the wing to make room for Winnall to partner either Fletcher or Hooper I'm sure he could provide. Maybe not even from crosses, but rebounds from his efforts. The same applies for McMannaman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Just now, TheEnchanter said: A B D I Did you even read my post? I mentioned the poor guy 1. What's wrong with having two like that in the squad (especially as Hourihane can play attacking or holding role midfielder) 2. We're still waiting on Abdi coming good. For whatever reason it hasn't worked out here. Maybe it won't. Hope it will, but I'm getting more and more convinced it's just not gonna work and he's going to be a 31 year old on big wages that we can't shift and doesn't play. If it were down to me I'd cut our losses and reinvest his wages elsewhere. Really, really hope he lives up to the promise and pedigree he has though and I'm proven wrong. We all know if he does as he has in the past, he'll be a monster in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Is he quick does anyone know ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Francksongoo said: Why the long face? That is an excellent reply, i am not going to spoil it by posting another quip, because it won't come close to yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest domSWFC Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, ozzieowl said: Re: FFS Re. Winnall My same mate has just been told as well not by one of our players that deal is agreed Winnall to be announced tomorrow. Could not happen just thought i'd put it out there. Hope it doesn't happen though. He is in the know though at Sheff and told me Forestieri was signing a contract a week or so before he did so make of it what you will and please don't shoot the messenger. I'm very happy to be wrong if that turns out to be the case. Is it just me or does this not read right This guy is right. I assure you, he will be proven true. In a few days, we'll see that Winnall has signed, or not signed just like he says. Easy to be ITK when you tell people both possible outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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