Vaughan Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I know. That's why they don't chant 'Chris Maguire...goal machine' just doesn't sound right does it Chris Maguire - Goal Supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 You clearly don't go to nightclubs mate. I see fights EVERY time I go out. Personally I dont get involved. But seems like every week there's somebody getting into a fight over nothing. I don't frequent nightclubs these days you're quite right! Though I have in the past for many years and never been involved in any sort of Fracas. They might well happen every week. I just don't see it as normal behaviour. Maybe I could make some money out of this breakdown in society. Buy myself a big old disused warehouse in the East end. Put a bar in and build a giant bear pit in the middle and for £10 entry let all the morons come and get drunk and then kick the sh*t out of each other. That way they have their 'fun' and the normal public can go for a quiet drink in town without and fear of being randomly bashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) The story is that Madine was guilty of unprovoked attacks. Not the same as your mates. Not true, I know an acquaintance of of one of the guys he hit. They were goading him and winding him up all night. Not excusing it, but it wasn't unprovoked. They were only in it after that for compensation. Edited February 26, 2014 by Vaughan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I've no problem with giving him another chance but let's not make him out to be some sort of superhero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Now we've made the decision and there's been an apology hopefully everyone can move on. If he does it again- get rid and hammer him for breach of cotnract or summat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Not true, I know an acquaintance of of one of the guys he hit. They were goading him and winding him up all night. Not excusing it, but it wasn;t unprovoked.The court saw it differently. I've said this before too; I know the family of one of the victims. He was subjected to an unprovoked attack. He never saw it coming. I've argued that Madine should be allowed to resume his career with us but trivialising his criminal actions does not serve anyone well. He also had a previous conviction for assault in Carlisle. Edited February 26, 2014 by Dagmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lythamowl Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 A couple of them do it all the time. Stupid really. But testorone flies around when alcohol is consumed. I've seen fights happen first hand in night clubs. I'm prepared to give Gary a chance. I understand where youre coming from Jon, my clubbing days are long gone but late 80's/early 90's in places like the Limit where we used to would have made madine think twice about clocking a wednesdayite I can tell you.... I think youre missing my point, i'm not commenting on society just we have a lad who manages to get arrested for it again and again and again Thats not broken britain is just plain dim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I understand where youre coming from Jon, my clubbing days are long gone but late 80's/early 90's in places like the Limit where we used to would have made madine think twice about clocking a wednesdayite I can tell you.... I think youre missing my point, i'm not commenting on society just we have a lad who manages to get arrested for it again and again and again Thats not broken britain is just plain dim! 'Once is a mistake, twice is stupidity' I know what you mean pal. And you're right. This is really last chance now for Gary. Fingers crossed he can stay out of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 They were goading him and winding him up all night. Not excusing it, but it wasn't unprovoked. They were only in it after that for compensation. I know that Roy Keane used to find this happening a hell of a lot when he first moved to Manchester United. City and Liverpool fans goading on nights out. He discovered the way to stop it though. He stopped going into town and getting smashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 He'll shoot He'll score He'll break your f***king jaw Gary Madine, Gary Madine *runs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The court saw it differently. The conviction notwithstanding, I am not sure the prosecution could have gone in there with the " the victims were giving him grief all night" line of attack. Might not have been as favourable as the 'innocent bystanders minding their own business' routine. Anyway. ..... That's enough from me, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lythamowl Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 'Once is a mistake, twice is stupidity' I know what you mean pal. And you're right. This is really last chance now for Gary. Fingers crossed he can stay out of trouble. yep, with you on that one bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The conviction notwithstanding, I am not sure the prosecution could have gone in there with the " the victims were giving him grief all night" line of attack. Might not have been as favourable as the 'innocent bystanders minding their own business' routine. Anyway. ..... That's enough from me, I'm sure that Madine had a decent legal team with counter arguments. He's been a serial offender. As I say the family of one of the victims saw it the same way as the courts. There's other stuff too but better left in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue n White Rampage Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Did he show genuine remorse? I thought he plead not guilty. he claimed it was self-defence, and didn't it happened, whether that was an honest answer or not it is plausible that he regretted his actions and the consequences there from. maybe you haven't but a lot of people are guilty of over-reacting when drunk and resorting to violence, just when its a proffessional footballer whos responsible it's hard for the other party not to turn down a potential cash cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcast Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 There's no morals in football, there hasn't been for years. It's all about the money. Forget your history and your once proud club as it counts for nothing if there's a chance of making or potentially losing a few quid. I remember you lot getting on the moral high-horse when we had Mattock on loan, now all is forgiven with the thug Madine and (with the odd exception) he is welcomed back like a returning hero. I fully expect Ched to rock back up at Bramall Lane and no doubt there will be a 500 page thread on here about SUFC's lack of morals and that you "can't compare the crime" which may be true but there's murderers, thieves, thugs, wife beaters playing week in week out so forget about standing on your soap box as it's a waste of time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday-Wonderland Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I think we should've sacked him as soon as he was found guilty, but we didn't so clean slate now as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 There's no morals in football, there hasn't been for years. It's all about the money. Forget your history and your once proud club as it counts for nothing if there's a chance of making or potentially losing a few quid. I remember you lot getting on the moral high-horse when we had Mattock on loan, now all is forgiven with the thug Madine and (with the odd exception) he is welcomed back like a returning hero. I fully expect Ched to rock back up at Bramall Lane and no doubt there will be a 500 page thread on here about SUFC's lack of morals and that you "can't compare the crime" which may be true but there's murderers, thieves, thugs, wife beaters playing week in week out so forget about standing on your soap box as it's a waste of time... Well that's jolly well told us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue n White Rampage Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 There's no morals in football, there hasn't been for years. It's all about the money. Forget your history and your once proud club as it counts for nothing if there's a chance of making or potentially losing a few quid. I remember you lot getting on the moral high-horse when we had Mattock on loan, now all is forgiven with the thug Madine and (with the odd exception) he is welcomed back like a returning hero. I fully expect Ched to rock back up at Bramall Lane and no doubt there will be a 500 page thread on here about SUFC's lack of morals and that you "can't compare the crime" which may be true but there's murderers, thieves, thugs, wife beaters playing week in week out so forget about standing on your soap box as it's a waste of time... madine got drunk and twatted a couple of people. ched was drunk with his mates and found a wasted girl on the street and took her with to a hotel room rather than calling her a taxi-that is unexcusable and should be kept away from drink and women accordingly. madine's been inside now and maybe realises the priveleges he has and hopefully realises he shouldnt be drinking and definitely not being in town giving it the big one. time will tell with madine but letting ched back would send a very bad message to young lads who dont realise either the effects or the reality of their behaviours towards women. maybe ched could be resocialised but to be somewhere where he could be regarded as a role model would be completely inappropriate unless he becomes mother theresa over night, but seen as though he still claims there was nothing wrong with his actions i dont see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 madine got drunk and twatted a couple of people. ched was drunk with his mates and found a wasted girl on the street and took her with to a hotel room rather than calling her a taxi-that is unexcusable and should be kept away from drink and women accordingly. madine's been inside now and maybe realises the priveleges he has and hopefully realises he shouldnt be drinking and definitely not being in town giving it the big one. time will tell with madine but letting ched back would send a very bad message to young lads who dont realise either the effects or the reality of their behaviours towards women. maybe ched could be resocialised but to be somewhere where he could be regarded as a role model would be completely inappropriate unless he becomes mother theresa over night, but seen as though he still claims there was nothing wrong with his actions i dont see that happening. a lot of the pc brigade seem to think madine and ched belong in the same bracket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue n White Rampage Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) a lot of the pc brigade seem to think madine and ched belong in the same bracket a lot of the pc brigade conveniently don't apply their criticisms to themselves Edited February 26, 2014 by Blue n White Rampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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