robswfc Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Just to all of you screaming like spoilt kids for DJs head and instant success. And those of you saying that 'results can't get any worse'. Cast your minds back to a few seasons ago. This time 3 years ago we were in the process of not scoring in 9 hours of football, culminating in Laws' sacking after an embarassing 5-0 defeat at Leicester. And under Irvine in 2010- spineless defeat after spineless defeat in the third tier. Losing without a whimper at Tranmere, at Stevenage, at Oldham. Only being able to draw despite playing against 9 men (MK Dons?) for 45 minutes... Make no mistake, it can get much, much worse than it is at the minute. If we force DJ out, we risk going into freefall. The players are still playing for their manager, and we are competing in almost all of our games. That to me suggests that a sacking will worsen the situation, especially with no stand-out candidate to come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Just to all of you screaming like spoilt kids for DJs head and instant success. And those of you saying that 'results can't get any worse'. Cast your minds back to a few seasons ago. This time 3 years ago we were in the process of not scoring in 9 hours of football, culminating in Laws' sacking after an embarassing 5-0 defeat at Leicester. And under Irvine in 2010- spineless defeat after spineless defeat in the third tier. Losing without a whimper at Tranmere, at Stevenage, at Oldham. Only being able to draw despite playing against 9 men (MK Dons?) for 45 minutes... Make no mistake, it can get much, much worse than it is at the minute. If we force DJ out, we risk going into freefall. The players are still playing for their manager, and we are competing in almost all of our games. That to me suggests that a sacking will worsen the situation, especially with no stand-out candidate to come in. excellent post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatricowl Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Well said ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrsGoggins Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Yeah lets go back to L1 whilst the pigs get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nejc_Pe�nik Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Shut the roger up. This is owlstalk. We doesn't do positivity. I come on here for my daily dose of negativity, if I wanted optimism I'd be a spurs supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Just to all of you screaming like spoilt kids for DJs head and instant success. And those of you saying that 'results can't get any worse'. Cast your minds back to a few seasons ago. This time 3 years ago we were in the process of not scoring in 9 hours of football, culminating in Laws' sacking after an embarassing 5-0 defeat at Leicester. And under Irvine in 2010- spineless defeat after spineless defeat in the third tier. Losing without a whimper at Tranmere, at Stevenage, at Oldham. Only being able to draw despite playing against 9 men (MK Dons?) for 45 minutes... Make no mistake, it can get much, much worse than it is at the minute. If we force DJ out, we risk going into freefall. The players are still playing for their manager, and we are competing in almost all of our games. That to me suggests that a sacking will worsen the situation, especially with no stand-out candidate to come in. We've got 8 points from the last 14 games after securing 7 points from our first 3 games. What would you call that if it's not freefall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigals Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Thats alright then It can get worse......3 points worse and we would be bottom So you are absolutely correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robswfc Posted November 18, 2012 Author Share Posted November 18, 2012 We've got 8 points from the last 14 games after securing 7 points from our first 3 games. What would you call that if it's not freefall? We've got 15 points from 17. We are struggling. But it is by no means a desperate situation yet, and we have been unlucky not to get more points. We need to stick together, keep our heads up, and the results will come gradually. Axing the manager will only unsettle the side and make things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JC Saviour Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Just to all of you screaming like spoilt kids for DJs head and instant success. And those of you saying that 'results can't get any worse'. Cast your minds back to a few seasons ago. This time 3 years ago we were in the process of not scoring in 9 hours of football, culminating in Laws' sacking after an embarassing 5-0 defeat at Leicester. And under Irvine in 2010- spineless defeat after spineless defeat in the third tier. Losing without a whimper at Tranmere, at Stevenage, at Oldham. Only being able to draw despite playing against 9 men (MK Dons?) for 45 minutes... Make no mistake, it can get much, much worse than it is at the minute. If we force DJ out, we risk going into freefall. The players are still playing for their manager, and we are competing in almost all of our games. That to me suggests that a sacking will worsen the situation, especially with no stand-out candidate to come in. I don't think anyone is forcing DJ out. I haven't heard any murmerings durings games, but, if anyone forces DJ out, it will be himself with the strange aquisition of players, tactics and to a larger degree, coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyS Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) Do not forget, it was alleged that Sir Alex Ferguson would have been sacked in 1990 if the FA Cup third round tie at Nottingham Forest had been lost. Look what has been achieved by sticking with what, at the time, was believed to be a failing manager. I am sure that most would be happy if DJ enjoyed just a tenth of the resultant success ... but there will still be the moaners of course. Edited November 18, 2012 by AndyS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) We've got 15 points from 17. We are struggling. But it is by no means a desperate situation yet, and we have been unlucky not to get more points. We need to stick together, keep our heads up, and the results will come gradually. Axing the manager will only unsettle the side and make things worse. Yes, and my stats stand up to scrutiny if you are suggesting we 'will go into freefall' if DJ is sacked because we are already in freefall and to try and pretend otherwise is frankly delusional. I'll say it again; 7 points from the first 3 matches and 8pts from the next 14 matches. How are you going to spin these facts? If we had continued our first 3 games of the season form we would eb 4 points clear at the top now with 40 points. We are 2oth with 15 points. Edited November 18, 2012 by Almat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Do not forget, it was alleged that Sir Alex Ferguson would have been sacked in 1990 if the FA Cup third round tie at Nottingham Forest had been lost. Look what has been achieved by sticking with what, at the time, was believed to be a failing manager. I am sure that most would be happy if DJ enjoyed just a tenth of the resultant success ... but there will still be the moaners of course. For every Fergie there are 000s of Alan Irvines, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Old Salt Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I've lost faith in jones but must admit I can't think of a decent replacement. I would prefer him to sort it out,,,but will he? He needs to change it now. We are not doing the basics well enough (people say since the coach left). I was all for the current formation but it hasn't worked and he needs to smell the coffee and move on. Reda and lines back might see a change in fortunes, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 So...it is ok to be rubbish, because we were rubbish three seasons ago. Ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 It can't get that much worse than 10 defeats in 13 matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chuckie4570 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I would like Jones to sort it and be a success but we/he/team don't seem to learn from our mistakes. We just keep getting battered ever week!! Sorry to be negative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz62uk Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 What hit me yesterday was when i heard that when we played palace we were 7 points above them and now they 21 points above us ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spongejosesquarejaw Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Irvine & Laws acheived pretty similar league positions that DJ has so far managed to produce, however they were managing a club in financial meltdown and both had a fraction of DJ's playing budget. Sorry, I hate chopping and changing managers but footy is a results based business and Jones hasnt been getting enough positive results. Make no mistake, Milan will get shut if he thinks he can get somebody else in who will get this club results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worksop Wednesday Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Just to all of you screaming like spoilt kids for DJs head and instant success. And those of you saying that 'results can't get any worse'. Cast your minds back to a few seasons ago. This time 3 years ago we were in the process of not scoring in 9 hours of football, culminating in Laws' sacking after an embarassing 5-0 defeat at Leicester. And under Irvine in 2010- spineless defeat after spineless defeat in the third tier. Losing without a whimper at Tranmere, at Stevenage, at Oldham. Only being able to draw despite playing against 9 men (MK Dons?) for 45 minutes... Make no mistake, it can get much, much worse than it is at the minute. If we force DJ out, we risk going into freefall. The players are still playing for their manager, and we are competing in almost all of our games. That to me suggests that a sacking will worsen the situation, especially with no stand-out candidate to come in. would say this is open to debate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 What hit me yesterday was when i heard that when we played palace we were 7 points above them and now they 21 points above us ! Precisely. Which is why i questioned the OP's suggestion that we will 'go into freefall' if DJ gets the push. We are already in freefall! The stats don't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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