@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Is Dave Jones too scared to play 4-4-2 given the crap he got from our fans when he did ? Are the players too nervous to play their normal game ? Are the midfielders too scared to play their normal through balls? Have we got back to the point when the team and manager are just doing enough not to get fired and are too nervous to relax and go for it? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) ...fear destroys a team. Irvine managed it in bucket loads..and right now you can see that fear in everything we do. Madine yesterday was more frightened of being off side than he was of banging the ball into the back of the net... ...fear of mistakes leads to mistakes...but it is a fine line between not being fearfull and being complacent. It is a very hard culture to destroy. Edited November 10, 2012 by Freshfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 They all looked a bit scared at times, low on confidence and the second goal killed them. Look at the body language of Corry and Barkley when they came off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Yes. DJ should realise 4-5-1 is a negative system (the way we play it) which is designed as a damage limitation exercise. It will not win us enough games to stay up. He should revert to 4-4-2, especially at home, play to our attacking strengths and we will survive. Persisting with 4-5-1 will cost him his job IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 ...it scares me just how much we are starting to look like an 'Irvine' team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Jones and the squad need to man up and grow a pair. I'd rather go down fighting, than continue like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 The thing is, we're playing 451 to accomodate the talent of Barkley. I think we'd be better playing 352 with JJ and Antonio on the wings. The lone forward is too isolated, Antonio tries to get forward and help the striker, but he can't do it all on his own all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest totemowl Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Yes. DJ should realise 4-5-1 is a negative system (the way we play it) which is designed as a damage limitation exercise. It will not win us enough games to stay up. He should revert to 4-4-2, especially at home, play to our attacking strengths and we will survive. Persisting with 4-5-1 will cost him his job IMHO. Why's it negaive the way we play it? Or are you just making that up cos you realised that plenty of succesful teams play 4-5-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 ...it scares me just how much we are starting to look like an 'Irvine' team! Exactly This is where fans can help, stopping the abuse on twitter and making Hillsborough a deafening fortress again instead of the silent library it was the last two games Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Exactly This is where fans can help, stopping the abuse on twitter and making Hillsborough a deafening fortress again instead of the silent library it was the last two games ...fookin' hell Neil...we've done it for decades!!...the change needs to happen on the pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 ...fookin' hell Neil...we've done it for decades!!...the change needs to happen on the pitch! Eh? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 ..the fans...been loud...given support...all this season too..except the last two games....and why is that? It's because of the set up on the pitch...needs to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Will we be the first club relegated due to twitter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Exactly This is where fans can help, stopping the abuse on twitter and making Hillsborough a deafening fortress again instead of the silent library it was the last two games Agree with this. I am worried about DJ's management though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest international owl Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Why's it negaive the way we play it? Or are you just making that up cos you realised that plenty of succesful teams play 4-5-1. Of course it is negative the way we are playing. the system itself can be very good, if used to attack, we are using it to try and get a draw or to nick a win, it is not working as we are too negative in our general play and do not get forward enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 ..the fans...been loud...given support...all this season too..except the last two games....and why is that? It's because of the set up on the pitch...needs to change. I bet Semedo day will be better than the last two home games Time after time the players tell us that the crowds noise helps them big time Antonio told us that the crowd created the goal that got us promoted Etc Etc Our fans can play a massive part Or they can just sit silent with arms folded whilst our team struggles Its up to us Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 Agree with this. I am worried about DJ's management though. I know what you mean - but think we should make hillsborough deafening until its sorted If the fans dont make a positive noise then we will be back to the minority having the loudest boys and hillsborough will be a place for boooos and abuse again Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I bloody know all that!....argh...stop...why am I biting...but you know what I mean...if we end up with an 'Irvinesque' mentality on the pitch and from the manager we are foookin' doooomed.....doooomed i tell thi.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 I bloody know all that!....argh...stop...why am I biting...but you know what I mean...if we end up with an 'Irvinesque' mentality on the pitch and from the manager we are foookin' doooomed.....doooomed i tell thi.. Why does that mean we shouldnt make hillsborough a deafening fortress? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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