owls maniac Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 8 hours ago, MSN SYSOP said: Only 1 country should hold the euros and world Cup.....what next England Australia and Argentina hosting world Cup together... I guess it’s a way of giving a chance to smaller countries who don’t have the infrastructure to host it themselves. For example, Denmark was exploring a Nordic bid alongside Sweden and Norway. Provisions should be put in place to minimise the extent fans have to travel between games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 50 minutes ago, owls maniac said: I guess it’s a way of giving a chance to smaller countries who don’t have the infrastructure to host it themselves. For example, Denmark was exploring a Nordic bid alongside Sweden and Norway. Provisions should be put in place to minimise the extent fans have to travel between games. it hasn't worked out like that with the US, Mexico and Canada winning the World Cup bid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 It'd be much better for it to be a UK and Ireland bid minus England Would mean some upgrades and maybe a couple of new stadiums Maybe "borrow" a venue or 2 in England such as Newcastle/Liverpool Otherwise it's likely England will dominate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 2 hours ago, scram said: It'd be much better for it to be a UK and Ireland bid minus England Would mean some upgrades and maybe a couple of new stadiums Maybe "borrow" a venue or 2 in England such as Newcastle/Liverpool Otherwise it's likely England will dominate Of course we would dominate and I think we should. Wales and both Irelands don't have sensible standard national leagues Take the 2 Glasgow clubs out of Scotland and they are not much better. I doubt if any of.the others would be credible premier league teams. Effectively its an English bid with the 'national ' stadiums of the others as token guests. Ps I think the bid is spot on , I don't think there is anywhere more suited. Pps I like travelling in Ireland(s), Scotland and Wales a lot. I am not anti their countries for one moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 What has the standard of their clubs got to do with it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, scram said: What has the standard of their clubs got to do with it? I think it has everything to do with it , I don't think the other nations are credible without England. There can be an argument that Scotland does have a full time league but at best it only has 3 stadiums that are suitable. I apologise if the Edinburgh clubs have 50k plus stadia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 The standard of the clubs has nothing to do with it - nor should it Murrayfield could be used in Edinburgh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, scram said: The standard of the clubs has nothing to do with it - nor should it Murrayfield could be used in Edinburgh OK that's 4. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) For a UK and Ireland minus England tournament you could have: Murrayfield Hampden Ibrox Celtic Park Millenium Stadium Cardiff City Stadium New Casement Park Croke Park Aviva Stadium Tbf thats still an average capacity of around 50,000. I suppose England is included because it makes it much more lucrative for UEFA and they want a knees up in London. Edited July 29, 2023 by owls maniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Which is why i said they could "adopt" a couple of areas of England - North East and North West perhaps - to give up to 7 more stadiums while not really increasing the geographical area much at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, scram said: Which is why i said they could "adopt" a couple of areas of England - North East and North West perhaps - to give up to 7 more stadiums while not really increasing the geographical area much at all But why not simply use the best already developed stadiums on this island. That really has to include Wembley. I think it's where the players would choose to play the final and where the most number of fans will get to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Because its about giving the other nations their turn in the spotlight Have an England bid by all means - but a combined bid dominated by England is unfair imo If it's just about getting the tournament to the biggest and best stadiums then it'd just rotate between England, Spain, Italy and Germany - with a cameo from France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, owls maniac said: For a UK and Ireland minus England tournament you could have: Murrayfield Hampden Ibrox Celtic Park Millenium Stadium Cardiff City Stadium New Casement Park Croke Park Aviva Stadium Tbf thats still an average capacity of around 50,000. I suppose England is included because it makes it much more lucrative for UEFA and they want a knees up in London. For the sake of cutting England out it’s then confined to just 5 cities then… absolutely pointless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 42 minutes ago, scram said: Because its about giving the other nations their turn in the spotlight Have an England bid by all means - but a combined bid dominated by England is unfair imo If it's just about getting the tournament to the biggest and best stadiums then it'd just rotate between England, Spain, Italy and Germany - with a cameo from France But this way does let some of the biggest and best stadiums in the world such as hampden, millenium stadium and Aviva Stadium host a tournament. While the countries wouldnt be able to hold it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 17 hours ago, scram said: Because its about giving the other nations their turn in the spotlight Have an England bid by all means - but a combined bid dominated by England is unfair imo If it's just about getting the tournament to the biggest and best stadiums then it'd just rotate between England, Spain, Italy and Germany - with a cameo from France If Ireland (s) and Wales want to be in the sporting spotlight let them host the tournament their populations really want to watch the equivalent Rugby Union one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, Geedee said: If Ireland (s) and Wales want to be in the sporting spotlight let them host the tournament their populations really want to watch the equivalent Rugby Union one to put it into perspective these countries haven't even been able to host a rugby World Cup due to lack of suitable stadiums and infrastructure for it etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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