sturrocko Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 The need to deliver maximum Season Ticket sales next year got me thinking about Pre-Season and the pro's and con's of a similar tour set-up like we had to Malta last year. I'd imagine this year's Pre-Season arrangements are already being negotiated if not finalised so it may not be possible to change things so late in the day but I definitely think it's worth a passing thought. Maybe AI already has firm ideas on what he wants from next preseason and what sort of set-up he is looking for. Anyhow my main point is: Would individual fans/their families be forced to choose financially between going away for a week to watch the lads play a few friendlies abroad and then attending the odd game back home when the season starts, or not going away with the team on a weeks holiday and being able to afford a season ticket? Hypothetically, would the club sell more ST's if there wasn't a pre-season tour abroad? I'd be interested to hear from anyone who went away to Malta in the summer if they have a ST for this season and if this is a dilemma they were faced with. Or if there wasn't a pre-season tour abroad would you have booked a summer holiday abroad in any case? Another important point would be that after the lads having a month off from playing and training, most going abroad with their families anyway during this time, given the shambles that this season has been, combined with any ill-feeling the fans have about a potential relegation (escape), would it be beneficial to give them a week in the sun together with the fans to play a few meaningless games, splash around on the beach and have a BBQ? I'm sorry if I'm being facetious, negative, seems like I'm FUDDing or however you want to put it but I would sooner have whatever remnants are left of this current squad experience some tough love by AI either keeping the players here in rainy old England training six days a week or take them to some un-luxurious, back to basics, grin and bare it sh1thole and have them do physically and mentally demanding exercises that instil some fight, purpose and camaraderie amongst them. Someone earlier in the week mentioned about old school managers in the past taking the players out of the comfort zones to do 'normal manual working' jobs for a day, should the recent kind of non-performances continue I would definitely endorse that. But back to the point.. Looking back after the Malta tour this year, everyone was positive and complimentary about what a great experience it was and great value for money. In this respect it was a real success and strengthened the club brand of being family/community orientated. I'm sure that the percentage of revenue that Wednesday received from the tour packages offset the cost of taking the players there too if not provided some additional income for the club too. It's just, given that we are where we are, is it the best thing to do in current circumstances? Very interested to hear everybody’s thoughts on this no matter how supportive or critical.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebneeb Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Most people on the pre season tour will be season ticket holders. Any that aren't will have gone as their main summer holiday, which is something they would do regardless, or don't have season tickets due to work commitments or where they live (non financial reasons). I don't really think it would impact whatsoever on season tickets by not having a tour, as anyone who would have gone on the tour would just go on a different holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucew Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 The need to deliver maximum Season Ticket sales next year got me thinking about Pre-Season and the pro's and con's of a similar tour set-up like we had to Malta last year. I'd imagine this year's Pre-Season arrangements are already being negotiated if not finalised so it may not be possible to change things so late in the day but I definitely think it's worth a passing thought. Maybe AI already has firm ideas on what he wants from next preseason and what sort of set-up he is looking for. Anyhow my main point is: Would individual fans/their families be forced to choose financially between going away for a week to watch the lads play a few friendlies abroad and then attending the odd game back home when the season starts, or not going away with the team on a weeks holiday and being able to afford a season ticket? Hypothetically, would the club sell more ST's if there wasn't a pre-season tour abroad? I'd be interested to hear from anyone who went away to Malta in the summer if they have a ST for this season and if this is a dilemma they were faced with. Or if there wasn't a pre-season tour abroad would you have booked a summer holiday abroad in any case? Another important point would be that after the lads having a month off from playing and training, most going abroad with their families anyway during this time, given the shambles that this season has been, combined with any ill-feeling the fans have about a potential relegation (escape), would it be beneficial to give them a week in the sun together with the fans to play a few meaningless games, splash around on the beach and have a BBQ? I'm sorry if I'm being facetious, negative, seems like I'm FUDDing or however you want to put it but I would sooner have whatever remnants are left of this current squad experience some tough love by AI either keeping the players here in rainy old England training six days a week or take them to some un-luxurious, back to basics, grin and bare it sh1thole and have them do physically and mentally demanding exercises that instil some fight, purpose and camaraderie amongst them. Someone earlier in the week mentioned about old school managers in the past taking the players out of the comfort zones to do 'normal manual working' jobs for a day, should the recent kind of non-performances continue I would definitely endorse that. But back to the point.. Looking back after the Malta tour this year, everyone was positive and complimentary about what a great experience it was and great value for money. In this respect it was a real success and strengthened the club brand of being family/community orientated. I'm sure that the percentage of revenue that Wednesday received from the tour packages offset the cost of taking the players there too if not provided some additional income for the club too. It's just, given that we are where we are, is it the best thing to do in current circumstances? Very interested to hear everybody’s thoughts on this no matter how supportive or critical.. Perhaps thet could go camping on the moors around sheffield ,bring back Tony Toms from the 70,s.(if hes still alive),he was an ex-marine i think.some of them could do with hard physical training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucew Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) The need to deliver maximum Season Ticket sales next year got me thinking about Pre-Season and the pro's and con's of a similar tour set-up like we had to Malta last year. I'd imagine this year's Pre-Season arrangements are already being negotiated if not finalised so it may not be possible to change things so late in the day but I definitely think it's worth a passing thought. Maybe AI already has firm ideas on what he wants from next preseason and what sort of set-up he is looking for. Anyhow my main point is: Would individual fans/their families be forced to choose financially between going away for a week to watch the lads play a few friendlies abroad and then attending the odd game back home when the season starts, or not going away with the team on a weeks holiday and being able to afford a season ticket? Hypothetically, would the club sell more ST's if there wasn't a pre-season tour abroad? I'd be interested to hear from anyone who went away to Malta in the summer if they have a ST for this season and if this is a dilemma they were faced with. Or if there wasn't a pre-season tour abroad would you have booked a summer holiday abroad in any case? Another important point would be that after the lads having a month off from playing and training, most going abroad with their families anyway during this time, given the shambles that this season has been, combined with any ill-feeling the fans have about a potential relegation (escape), would it be beneficial to give them a week in the sun together with the fans to play a few meaningless games, splash around on the beach and have a BBQ? I'm sorry if I'm being facetious, negative, seems like I'm FUDDing or however you want to put it but I would sooner have whatever remnants are left of this current squad experience some tough love by AI either keeping the players here in rainy old England training six days a week or take them to some un-luxurious, back to basics, grin and bare it sh1thole and have them do physically and mentally demanding exercises that instil some fight, purpose and camaraderie amongst them. Someone earlier in the week mentioned about old school managers in the past taking the players out of the comfort zones to do 'normal manual working' jobs for a day, should the recent kind of non-performances continue I would definitely endorse that. But back to the point.. Looking back after the Malta tour this year, everyone was positive and complimentary about what a great experience it was and great value for money. In this respect it was a real success and strengthened the club brand of being family/community orientated. I'm sure that the percentage of revenue that Wednesday received from the tour packages offset the cost of taking the players there too if not provided some additional income for the club too. It's just, given that we are where we are, is it the best thing to do in current circumstances? Very interested to hear everybody’s thoughts on this no matter how supportive or critical.. Perhaps they could go camping on the moors around sheffield ,bring back Tony Toms from the 70,s.(if hes still alive),he was an ex-marine i think.some of them could do with hard physical training Edited March 6, 2010 by brucew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest intercity0wl Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Most people on the pre season tour will be season ticket holders. Any that aren't will have gone as their main summer holiday, which is something they would do regardless, or don't have season tickets due to work commitments or where they live (non financial reasons). I don't really think it would impact whatsoever on season tickets by not having a tour, as anyone who would have gone on the tour would just go on a different holiday. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 However if you throw in a couple of Northern Soul nights there may be more going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJayOne Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 However if you throw in a couple of Northern Soul nights there may be more going Northern Soul night coming to Hillsborough soon, hopefully... SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam779 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 James, Where is the bloody pre-season tour? I can't put my Mrs off from booking holidays and dates much longer...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manwithastick Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 i would imagine that, even though interraction with fans is important, AI may well want to get the players away from all distractions and beast the rumbleers to fitness levels the like of which SWFC hasn't seen in a long while. this years pre season should be 100% about what is best for the squad. and as for Tony Toms - very much alive and well - was at a Hirstys bar in 2009, has a book (coming) out (he's bodyguarded for Madonna amongst others) and stole the show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmyowl1212 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Dont we need some players first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultime Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Northern Soul night coming to Hillsborough soon, hopefully... hope its not some shitty "rivival night" KTF UTO FTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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