Andy rhodes

[Kanye West]

20 minutes ago, scram said:

That alone shouldn't qualify him for the job of course (although apparently nostalgia seems to be one of the reasons to give George Hirst whatever he wants...)

 

Was going to say the exact same.

[@owlstalk]

20 minutes ago, Eastern said:

 

Just left Millwall

 

Even so I don't think he's right for us

We've moved on 

[slinger208b]

1 hour ago, daleblue said:

 

Yep, didn't realise at the time he was going as assistant coach, good for him, if true.

 

Assumed you did, it was in the OP.

 

Yeh, he's put a good shift in. Owes us nothing...

[simpark]

39 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

Even so I don't think he's right for us

We've moved on 

 

I can't say whether he is right or not as I don't know enough about his track record of coaching established keepers, identifying quality players, bringing through youngsters or heading up a goalkeeping department

 

We should be aiming to get the very best candidate in these areas - plus someone whose personality compliments the rest of the coaching staff

 

Whether they've worn a Wednesday shirt in the past should have ZERO relevance

[@owlstalk]

Just now, simpark said:

 

I can't say whether he is right or not as I don't know enough about his track record of coaching established keepers, identifying quality players, bringing through youngsters or heading up a goalkeeping department

 

We should be aiming to get the very best candidate in these areas - plus someone whose personality compliments the rest of the coaching staff

 

Whether they've worn a Wednesday shirt in the past should have ZERO relevance

100% agree

[nevthelodgemoorowl]

I'm not too sure if I believe what I'm saying here, but could it be that keeper coaching is a bit of a waste of a resource.

 

Most keepers make saves that we the fans are in awe of. It's an instinctive reaction that develops in kids from around the age of 10 possibly even younger.

 

The coaches do work on keepers regarding angles etc but for me the decisions on bread and butter stuff has to come subjectively from the keepers themselves. Ball development has played a huge part in keeping science since the days of Garincha and his banana bender, for now the ball not only bends but bends and dips. However, the decision as to whether the Keeper places men covering the posts does not seem to rest with the keepers or the coaches but rests with the Manager/head coach as does the decision on man or zonal marking.

 

People must get sick of me harping back to Ron Springett but I recall a Charles Buchan Football Mothly with a great pic of Don Megson clearing the line at Old Trafford with a diving header following a Man U corner. Springett for once had lost out to a Davin Herd header but Johnson and Megson were both on the line to deny Herd. Springett preferred to be offensive in his command of the area and to be fair it worked a treat. At the other side of the City was Englands then No 2 keeper Alan Hodgkinson; He preferred to stay on the line commanding no more than his six yard box and punching clear rather than looking to catch and to be fair to him his system worked for him. My Question is would either of these two great Keepers faired differently had keeping coaches asked Springett to stay on the line and Hodgkinson to take command of his area and catch the ball much more ?

 

I certainly think clubs should do more work on setting up defensively against the 25 yard free kick, as the accuracy from the specialists is getting better and better and the five man wall is increasingly failing. Men on the posts and double walls are options that may give the keepers some help in sighting the ball, but of course you can't have it both ways as offside goes out of the window. An interesting debate though !   

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Good luck Andy.