lukestheman82 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2605028/Meet-Andreas-Christensen-18-year-old-Chelsea-defender-20-000-week-never-played-team-wont-time-soon.html Where is the competition? Only a handful of clubs in the world can pay these disgusting wages, for a child....What hope do non billionaire owned clubs have? This is disgusting, it's ruining football and also ruining player development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambler Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Don't just talk about it, RAP ABOUT IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 Don't just talk about it, RAP ABOUT IT! Rather not, more a Meatloaf man myself.... I would do anything thing for football...But I won't do that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Jason Cundy mentioned this a few weeks ago on the sports bar. Apparently he's not the only one at the club. He didn't mention names but said there was quite a few. Said there are supposed to be 23 Chelsea players on loan around Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 Jason Cundy mentioned this a few weeks ago on the sports bar. Apparently he's not the only one at the club. He didn't mention names but said there was quite a few. Said there are supposed to be 23 Chelsea players on loan around Europe Yet how many come through the Chelsea youth system?...It's almost like they are cherry picking kids, so their rivals can't have them...So many promising kids have stagnated at Chelsea, I dare say it's the same at City...Atleast Man Utd try the kids...It's stupid...The system needs to change...Maybe a maximum number of players in each teams reserve/youth squads?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Yet how many come through the Chelsea youth system?...It's almost like they are cherry picking kids, so their rivals can't have them...So many promising kids have stagnated at Chelsea, I dare say it's the same at City...Atleast Man Utd try the kids...It's stupid...The system needs to change...Maybe a maximum number of players in each teams reserve/youth squads?? Wasn't it Real Madrid who did this a few seasons ago buying senior players to prevent them going to other clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 All the top clubs Hoover up the top young talent. All about stopping the other big teams from snapping them up. After that point I honestly don't think they give a stuff whether so and so makes it. It's beneficial if he does, but if not then they can always snap up three or four more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 Wasn't it Real Madrid who did this a few seasons ago buying senior players to prevent them going to other clubs? Very true All the top clubs Hoover up the top young talent. All about stopping the other big teams from snapping them up. After that point I honestly don't think they give a stuff whether so and so makes it. It's beneficial if he does, but if not then they can always snap up three or four more. It's just so sad, footballs fcuked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithmetic Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 How is this any different from our development squad? Just because their second string are worth a lot more than ours doesn't change the principle. Are we ruining Paul Corry's development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWP Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 couple of things. the article states a wage and says the club refute that then goes on to imply it's his actual wage. the article states he's streets ahead of his contemporaries in the same sentence where it states he didn't start the match anyway, I get the point and the only way to resolve it is if the governing bodies were to bring limitations to the number of players a club can have on their books and also the number of players it can loan out. that would instantly resolve this 28 players out on loan nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 How is this any different from our development squad? Just because their second string are worth a lot more than ours doesn't change the principle. Are we ruining Paul Corry's development? How is this different??? did you really say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted April 16, 2014 Author Share Posted April 16, 2014 couple of things. the article states a wage and says the club refute that then goes on to imply it's his actual wage. the article states he's streets ahead of his contemporaries in the same sentence where it states he didn't start the match anyway, I get the point and the only way to resolve it is if the governing bodies were to bring limitations to the number of players a club can have on their books and also the number of players it can loan out. that would instantly resolve this 28 players out on loan nonsense To be fair, I didn't go through the article too well, but I 100% agree with your final point...I't's the only way IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWP Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 To be fair, I didn't go through the article too well, but I 100% agree with your final point...I't's the only way IMO. Go through it, it's an interesting read on the whole (if you take some of the stats with a pinch of salt). The comments are also interesting, some people talking about how the youth wages don't count towards the financial fair play, so expenditure here is nothing for these big clubs and is seen as a loophole at funding the first team directly through the players or indirectly through their sales in the future (with the sale money being reinvested in first team players). They tout Lukaku as one example claiming he's worth £30m (not sure on that to be honest) and stating that if players such as Christensen don't make the cut, even they could still sell for a few million and deliver a profit overall. Yet even if they don't they're hardly wasting anything when compared to their overall spending. It's got to be seen as a similar risk to us signing the likes of Pecnik (not that I'm excusing them... or us for signing Pecnik) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithmetic Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 How is this different??? did you really say that? Can you answer the question with anything better than "the numbers are bigger"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aj_owl Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Certainly agree that there should be a limited number in the youth squads and on loaning out players as well. The F.A should also introduce a salary cap and include a specific homegrown cap. This would at least spread some talent without clubs having to get lucky or spend millions on academies (only to have those players transferred for practically nothing as the current system is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aj_owl Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Can you answer the question with anything better than "the numbers are bigger"?Paul Corry, your example has made the first team and didn't cut it. No-one will sign him so we can't sell him.I'd say that's a difference already. We don't sign players from the academies of lower league/foreign clubs only to not develop them into first team players nor do we loan out 23 under 21 players a season around Europe. Palmer, Lavery, Floro and Adam Davies(sub) have made the team sheet for us this season in a league match, how many of Chelsea's development team have? Read about the career of Nemanja Matic, interest from Man Utd, signed for Chelsea then loaned out, 1 first team performance sacked off for a nice profit then bought back for £21 million 3/4 years later. Edited April 16, 2014 by aj_owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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