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  1. Cheers. Yeah pretty much. I mean from the outside people think ‘We’ll he sold you to the richest people on the planet’ but there is more to the story than that. Basically commercially we were getting less than a lot of Championship clubs. For comparison the year before Ashley bought us, we were gaining £1m more than Spurs. By the time he left Spurs were earning £180m more than us commercially. Obviously that’s not the full picture though. Spurs have went on and done exceedingly well commercially. They now have perhaps the best stadium in football/sport etc. On top of that all the commercial deals were apparently heavily weighted in favour of the sponsor, in the case of Sports Direct who had pretty much every advertising board in the stadium throughout Ashley’s tenure, they only paid the club for the final few years. In fact as it happens there is a court case between the club and Ashley going on, because Sports Direct actually never paid the money that was due, despite it being well below markets value. The club managed to buyout the Fun88 shirt sponsorship, so that will end at the end of the month. However they have not been able to buyout the Castore shirt manufacturer sponsorship, so that will run yet, although rumours are that they are close to agreeing to end it early. Anyway I don’t want to distract from such an important match thread for you guys. There is an Amazon documentary about us, which is apparently focussed on the commercial aspect of the club instead of the playing side being filmed, that is due out at the end of summer. So maybe that will interest a few viewers. Anyway guys, once again good luck.
  2. Hi guys. A Newcastle United fan here. I think some of you may remember me from a few years back from the Mike Ashley thread. Anyway I just wanted to pop in to wish you all luck, hope you guys do it.
  3. He never had Bobby Robson as manager, SBR was sacked 4 years before Ashley bought us. Thanks to Ashley SBR’s final 2 years saw the club treat Kevin Keegan appallingly, and the club get relegated.
  4. No problem. You raise valid points. I’ll agree to disagree on Ashley specifically, but everything else I think you hit the nail on the head. For what it’s worth. I hope everything works out for Wednesday. Despite being out the Premier League for a long time, to me you are still one of those biggish names in English football. A few years ago when we were in the Championship I went to Hillsborough and enjoyed it, despite the result. The atmosphere there was one of the best home atmospheres I’be experiences, and the people were pleasant and friendly. I do actually hope you manage to come up, and to stay up, rather than having just a one of visit like so many clubs do these days.
  5. No club has an automatic right to be at the top, not Newcastle, not Arsenal, not Man Utd, Liverpool etc. Newcastle fans were never comparing about finishing 12th, it was about how the club was being taken apart and had no ambition at all. To me the Arsenal fans going on like they did when they were winning 3 FA Cups out of 4 didn’t sit well with me. I can understand how they felt overall and in the long term their club could fall away and become a shadow of themselves. They are entitled to have that view, however how they went about it didn’t sit and still doesn’t sit well with me, I feel like they could have done better with it. Us Newcastle fans probably have to take similar criticism, how could we have handled it and done better? In my opinion if you read and watch what fans say on social media etc then it’s easy for emotion to overshadow everything they are trying to converse, and that can easily come across as arrogance. As I have said before the Newcastle fans worked with other clubs to help their efforts. There wasn’t just a demand to change ownership at our club, but to change it at every level and to give fans greater power and ultimately a bigger say in how their clubs are run and potentially ownership. We worked with fans of other clubs like Blackpool, Charlton, and Coventry. Behind the doors and away from angry kids on Twitter and such there was a good section of our fans working for the greater good. There was never a ‘my club is worse off attitude’. It was always a ‘How can we help you and everyone else?’ idealism. A couple of weeks ago I rang my Sunderland season ticket holder friend of mine who was besides himself with what’s happening to his club. There isn’t much written in the media about it but they are dangerously close to going out of business. If this season is ended and they aren’t promoted the owners can not afford to keep them going. In fact even if they do get promoted they likely still don’t have enough money and promotion would only really help in attracting new buyers. The people who bought them were complete chancers who were effectively given the club for free by their former owner in order to prevent him from having any liability to them any longer, and they took the club on in the hope that they would quickly be promoted and they could sell them for a quick profit. Anyway I rang my friend to tell him about the various things the Newcastle fans have done to change football ownership rules and inform him of ways of how theirs ways of gaining funding for fan groups of teams so they can buy their clubs. At the Premier League level the funding just isn’t there, but further down it’s a possibility. My phone call was designed to let him and his fellow fans about it so they can start getting the ball rolling, because honestly they are very likely to go into administration. As for Bury, I said it at the time that it was a disgrace. It’s a disgrace the EFL and FA allowed it. It was a disgrace that the EFL prevented them from playing games early on in order to help them bring match day income into the club to give them a fighting chance. It was a disgrace how they have Bolton more time to save themselves on the same day they kicked Bury out of the league just because Bolton are a bigger name. It’s a disgrace that the EFL has gained money 72 clubs for years and years and have chucked it away with nothing to show for it and had nothing to give to Bury. It’s a disgrace that the FA get all the money from the Premier League and the EFL, still haven’t paid Wembley off, haven’t invested in grassroots football, and have nothing in the bank to give to clubs like Bury. The Bury situation should have been the end of the EFL and the FA. That should have been the moment where fans asked where the money has disappeared too. Instead we are about to face a few clubs go to the wall, watch the EFL ask for the begging bowl from the Premier League, watch the FA and EFL to ask for the taxpayers to help them out, and see them do nothing. 100% the EFL and FA will do nothing to help any club facing difficulties in the next year or so. They will allow these clubs to go to the wall, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we see rumours of them trying to attempt the old firm into the Championship in order to fill the gaps within the league and to help sell their product to the TV networks.
  6. Fair enough. My posts were just to give you all context. Personally I don’t think he would improve and would probably hinder any club he got his hands on.
  7. In pretty much every post in this thread that I have written I have stated that it is not my place to say what you as fans of Sheffield Wednesday should or shouldn’t accept. It is not my place to say that, it’s not my place to say that to any set of fans of any club. Right now me and my fellow supporters are being told by outsiders what we should and shouldn’t accept, what we as supporters and citizens of our city should sacrifice, by people who do not know us, understand us, under the sacrifice that they are asking us to make, nor care about us, our club, or our city. In my posts on here I have been very deliberate in saying that it’s not for me to say what you should accept for your club, because that’s a position I and almost all Newcastle fans take and something we have learnt to take because it has been applied to us. Never have I said or will I say that Sheffield Wednesday shouldn’t accept Ashley or any other owner, or the prospect of being promoted or hoping to achieve promotion. The points that I have tried to make about Ashley on here are from first hand experiences as life as a support of a club he’s owned. All I can say is that Ashley could come into your club and say his aim is to win promotion and have you as a stable Premier League club. I can understand how many of you if not all of you would jump up at the chance of that. All I’m saying is that when he came into Newcastle he said he wanted us to be finishing in the top 4. The examples I pointed out in my first post on here were done to show how that was never his ambition and how every action he took was preventing us from achieving, be it from the mangers he appointed, the lack of investment in the playing squad, and even the financial deals which meant that we couldn’t compete even if he had a change of mind. When he bought House of Fraser he stayed that he wanted to save the high street and rerun the company to the top. In reality his real aim was to get his hands on their stock. He bought them for £80m and immediately earned over £100m worth of stock. The big labels clothes he had was immediately transferred to his Cruise/Flannels stores. In came regular SD clothes to HOF, at least the stores he kept open. The sofa’s and other house hold furniture at HOF was immediately transferred to his Sofa.com business. Despite saying he wanted to safe HOF many stores were immediately closed, and quite a few others quickly followed. A lot of stores that remain are now a shadow of their former selves, if you go into one of their stores now you’ll see a sharp decrease in quality in the stock on sale, and in the views of former staff members and retail analysts, ‘A deliberate run down in stores’. Everything I have said on here has not been an attempt to say you should or shouldn’t accept Ashley, it has just been a first hand account of how what you are promised will not be delivered. In the column that I wrote which sparked this thread, I said that Ashley’s ambition would very well start out as wanting promotion and he would be happy if you turned into a yo-yo team. However his ambition is never matched by his actions and his ambition may very well be that for the next club he buys, but I believe his actions would result in a lot less, and as I said in the column, my fear would be that he would turn you into a yo-yo team between the Championship and League One instead. I think it is also important to consider that it’s not just Newcastle fans who have a gripe about him. If you talk to Rangers fans then many of them would put him in partial blame to situation they find themselves in now, where they have been turned from 1 of two clubs who could win the SPL/SPFL, to a team who has to finish 2nd at best and watch as their bitter rivals ease to each title win. When time comes for Sheffield Wednesday to be taken over again, be that Ashley or anyone else, you will all be asked what you will take and what you expect of your new owner to do with your club and if they would be suitable owners for your club. It is my belief that this question can only be asked by yourself and your fellow fans, and can only be answered by yourself and your fellow fans. My participation here has never been to interfere in that, my participation has been to give you all information so that when that times comes, and if that prospective owner is Ashley, then you are able to answer those questions with all the information you’d need. TL;DR: I come in peace.
  8. Hi guys, Newcastle fan here from the Ashley thread. I thought I’d let you know that the rules state that any points deducted after March would be applied to the following season. I think when Birmingham were deducted points a few years ago they moved to clarify the situation. Some fans thought a points deduction late in a season for clubs who had nothing to play for wasn’t a punishment and allowed them to get away with whatever they did. In saying this I think with the situation as it is at the minute, the league are quite a while away from making a decision about deducting points from anyone. On top of that, I’m not convinced they will deduct you points. The EFL are about to face a few clubs going to the wall which will damage their product, they aren’t about to make it harder for the clubs who do survive by handing out points deductions on FFP matters when they are likely going to have to relax FFP and financing rules.
  9. I know some people who were heavily involved in the protests against him and went to a few of their meetings. The protestors and official supporters group were very much involved in attempted changes with the FA about ownership, most interestingly fan ownership. They have found ways in which fans can fund and gain funding for owning their club through some sort of community asset funding. Unfortunately all the help in the world isn’t enough to find a fan based takeover of Premier League clubs, but the ground work is there for clubs further down the pyramid. I was actually having this same conversation with a Sunderland supporting friend of mine a couple of weeks ago and urged him/their supporters to look into it. Alongside that, one of our main protestors is actually high up in the policies department for Labour, and he was able to put in a proposed fan ownership offer to supporters during takeovers in their manifesto. That actually being implemented had they won is another thing though.
  10. So I have been asked about Steve Bruce’s tenure. My opinion does far is he’s been massively lucky. For a large part of the season it has been down to the training methods installed in players around him and individual brilliance that has saved him. Under Rafa if we did lose a game, we weren’t really hammered, we were usually in most games. Under Bruce we have started to get hammered in games again. We are the worst of one of the worst in the league for things like chances created, goals scored, possession etc. There has been times when we have been massively lucky, for example in February we were getting beat 2-0 by Everton in the 92nd minute. We had not been in the game at all and the score line could have been higher. Somehow Everton bottles it and we ended up drawing 2-2. A few days earlier we played Chelsea, should have lost the game, we scored a winner in the last minute. Against your rivals Sheffield United, we weren’t at our best, and they incorrectly stopped play and we scored to make it 2-0, thanks to VAR the goal was allowed. Had we not got that 2nd goal then no doubt we would have allowed them back in the game. There seems to be no plan under him. In saying this though, luck or not, it looks like we will be safe this, and compare that to what our expectation were, that’s great. Long term I doubt he’d be able to push us forward in the league assuming that’s what our prospective new owners will want, however he deserves to see this season out. As for the dead pigeon, I don’t/didn’t sit at that end of the ground, haven’t sat there since before Ashley came to the club. I’d like to say it’s gone, but anytime I ask people insist it’s still there. I haven’t seen proof though, so I think they are just on the windup now. As for some of you saying you’d still take Ashley and he’s be better than your current owner. As I have said it’s not my place for me to say what you would and wouldn’t take and who would or wouldn’t be better for you. All I can do is give an inside perspective from our fans and hopefully that gives you a bit of context to him.
  11. Hello guys/girls. I'm a Newcastle United fan, and more importantly I'm the fan who wrote that article that is being quoted on here. Let me start off by saying that I'm not ITK, I do not know of any information that indicates that Mike Ashley is to buy Sheffield Wednesday or any other club. The article I wrote is actually a column piece on a Newcastle fanzine website. 99.9% of the things written on there are opinion pieces or republications of news from official and non-official sources. I wrote that column piece as a warning to football fans because I believe that Mike Ashley is not finished with football. I used Sheffield Wednesday as an example because in my opinion your club represents the most logical choice for Ashley to buy under my understanding of him. The reason I used Sheffield Wednesday is based on the fact that I believe Ashley will want to buy another football club, but will want to do so cheaply, but with the prospect of getting into the Premier League. Your fanbase, your location (in proximity to Sports Directs HQ) and under my observations, your availability, alongside with the chance of getting into the Premier League as a Championship team is why I believe you would be the perfect candidate for him. I do not wish him upon you, nor is it my place to say if he would be better or worse than your current owner. Only you as fans of the club are able to determine that. I and my fellow Newcastle fans have realised in recent years that it is the fans of each club who knows best about what is good and bad about their clubs, even their owners. In this thread I have read many things regarding Ashley, I'll try to go through everything as I can, and if I miss anything out, feel free to ask me anything you'd like and I'll answer it honestly as I can. For the sake of playing devils advocate I'll answer the questions under the basis that he is buying Sheffield Wednesday. So the first claim is that Ashley will invest in your club in regards to the playing side. I have to dispute that quite a bit. Under Ashley's tenure of Newcastle United never has he put his own money into the club for transfers. For the majority of the seasons he's owned us we have had a net profit from transfers. The times we have spent more have been offset by previous seasons where we have earned more from transfer sales. All finance documents relating the club under his ownership has not saw him put any money into the club, aside from a couple of instances which I'll explain later. None of those instances have been towards the purchase of players. There is a stat that actually says it took us 5 years to spend the £35m we received from Liverpool for the sale of Andy Carroll in 2010. We it actually took us 5 years to spend £35m, over that time the club took in over £500m worth of TV money alone. Mike Ashley will invest in the club/clear our debts: Contrary to popular belief Newcastle United did not have much debt when Ashley bought us. The only debt we had was for an expansion of St James' Park from 7 years earlier which was tied to ticket sales. This debt was sustainable and was on course to be paid back on time, however there was clause in the loan. The clause was that if NUFC was to ever be taken over, then the debt would have to be settled immediately. I understand that this type of financing is common within business deals. Now here is where it gets funny. Mike Ashley famously never did a full due diligence check on NUFC, he only had a brief look at our accounts and actually bought us within a few days of first approaching our then owners about buying the club. As such he never knew that this debt had to be paid back immediately until after he bought the club and the money was demanded. This is where he trots out a lie stating 'I cleared their debt, they are debt free' which has become accepted within the media as true. In reality the debt was being paid off and was never at a level where it could cripple the club. Also Ashley did not clear that debt off and forget about it, instead he has kept that debt on the club's value and is demanding it back when the club is sold. The debt has not been cleared, it is just owed too Ashley. Had Ashley not bought the club, the debt would have been paid off by now. Ashley will invest in the club: As previously mentioned Mike Ashley has not invested in NUFC. What is most shocking though is that he seemingly does not allow the club to invest it's own money. I have already pointed out how we have actually spent little in transfer fee's and far less than what we have received, however it doesn't stop there. When Mike Ashley bought NUFC we had one of the Premier League's best training grounds, we had a great stadium etc. Before Ashley arrived NUFC were always investing in different areas of the club, for example us and Arsenal were the first clubs to buy those lights that are rolled on and off the pitches, and we were the first club in the Premier League to have heated seats in the dugout to assist the players preparation and recovery for matches. In fact I believe only Real Madrid were before us in having them in the world. Now our training ground is in a shocking state, many Championship clubs have better facilities, and I know of at least 1 League One club who has better facilities that put ours to shame. As for SJP. Well the investment has been virtually none. If any of you have been to SJP then you will know that the majority of the roof and the sidewalks to the roof is all glass. This glass has not been cleaned once in 13 years of Ashley's ownership. In recent years there has been a backlash from fans about the state of disrepair SJP has become, with our fans showing examples online to shame the club into taking action. One example use is of a dead pigeon which has laid trapped in netting below the roof of the Gallowgate stand for over 5 years. Another example of the brickwork of the stands which is full of grime. A simple pressure washer costing £100 would be enough to solve the problem, heck many fans have offered to do it themselves. The club have said that they will take action. Well they did, somewhat. Earlier this season they painted some of the wall that was full of grime, and in a dark colour so that they won't ever have to wash it. However the company they used were cheap, so cheap that they never washed the wall before painting it. So now the brick wall has paint over years of dirt, and obviously in time that dirt and damp will just start to rot. One fan who started publicly humiliating the club is actually a planing developer/inspector. He doesn't work for Newcastle council but a nearby council, however he has contacts with Newcastle and he revelled at supporters meetings that Newcastle council are very concerned with the state SJP is in. For example it is clear that on their inspections the club is not keeping up to date with H&S requirements. One of the examples they used is the equipment they have to prevent rodents and infection is all branded by a company who do not and have not existed for some amount of time. On top of this the equipment has clearly not been checked in-between intervals that they have checked. It is believed that the council have been giving the club warnings are are a=close to taking legal action against them to force them to comply with regulations. Ashley knows how to get a manager to get a team out of the Championship: In our first Championship season under Ashley, we had Chris Hughton. It is worth noting that Ashley did not appoint him as manager, in fact Chris Hughton was actually only in charge of the club because he was the most senior member of the coaching staff left at the club following relegation, in fact he was not appointed as manger until a few months into the season. When we were relegated the first time around Alan Shearer was willing to stay on as manager, and kept asking Ashley and those at the club for clarification over the issue as his contract was expiring. When Pre-season training commenced Hughton was the most senior member of the coaching staff left and had to ask what to do. He was told to take charge of training until they appointed someone, that someone was him later in the season when they realised that somehow he was doing a great job. As for Rafa. It is well documented that Rafa actually approached the club to offer his services. Overtime it became apparent to him that Ashley did not hold the same ambitions for the club as he did. In fact it is rumoured that Rafa was the one to first get Amanda Staveley interested in buying NUFC after meeting her when she attempted to buy Liverpool during his tenure there. He did this because he saw NUFC as a longterm project. Rafa decided not to renew his contract and head for China not because of the money (he could have left for the money at any point), but because Ashley did not match his ambition. He has since dug the boot into Ashley since with quotes like "When I first came they said they would upgrade the training facilities and academy, in the end they painted the walls'. What is certain is that Rafa will never work for an Ashley owned club again. With Pardew, he only got the job because he was a regular at Llambias' (the chairman of NUFC at that time and close friend of Ashley) casino and deliberately got himself into debt with him. He then kept going to Llambias that if he had a job (he was unemployed after being sacked by League One Southampton) then he would be able to pay him back. Our fans first heard rumours of his appointment 6 weeks before it happened. Hughton was sacked not long after we beat Arsenal at the Emirates, a few months after gaining promotion, at a time when we weren't really in any danger of going down, and after we had wins such as 6-0 vs Aston Villa, and 5-1 against Sunderland just a month or two beforehand. Pardew did his typical Pardew thing where he has a good year or so, then his management takes a hold and the performances get terrible and the results follow. At one point he wasn't able to come out of the dugout during a home match because the boo's towards him were so loud, a fact which he admitted. He was then able to headbutt an opposition player, and do so without the threat of sack from the club. When he eventually left for Crystal Palace in the January, it wasn't until the summer when we got a replacement for him, which consisted of a period of time which so John Carver nearly take us to relegation with only 2 wins in the 2nd half of the season. Even then his replacement was Steve McClaren who had been sacked by Derby. This indicated that throughout his tenure, the club had no consideration to get rid of him, or worst of all, had no plan B in case Pardew left or was somehow unable to continue as manager. Ashley will organise the finances: When Ashley bought us our finances and income were some of the best in the Premier League and we often featured in the top 20 richest clubs in the world list. At the time we were arguably on par or better than Spurs, both on and off the pitch. Since then Spurs have built a new £1bn stadium and have income amongst the best in the world, with mega deals with the likes of Nike. When Ashley came in he was quoted as saying 'I looked at the finances and we were paying a PR executive £100k a year, that was the first to go, we don't need PR'. At this moment in time NUFC are paying the PR firm KBR £300k a year. KBR is ran by Ashley's close personal friend Keith Bishop, and Ashley owns a large percentage of KBR. The majority of KBR's clients are either Sports Direct, or Sports Direct's brands. He does have a few non Sports Direct clients, most notably Jim White from Sky Sports/Talksport. Keith Bishop's never had any PR experience when setting up KBR, his profession was a lawyer, however for whatever reason he was able get clients like Sports Direct off a bat, which in no way had anything to do knowing Mike Ashley from previous business deals. When he first came in the very first thing he did was outsource the catering and the majority of staff at SJP. Some people think that's good idea, however when the club's non-matchday income came from events being hosted at SJP, it's not exactly clever to basically give that away. Look at Spurs now who are working in partnership with local brewers etc for their stadium catering, no doubt gaining a hefty profit in the process. Another thing he did was basically turn our club shop in to a Sports Direct store. The club had 3 club stores located in outside of SJP in Newcastle and the nearby Metrocentre (like Meadowhall). Ok so the internet and general slowing down of the high street would have eventually led to some of those stores closing in anyway, but Ashley cut that straight away. Our merchandise is now sold through Sports Direct. Our clubs store website is a Sports Direct store with a NUFC skin on it. You'll often find merchandise of other clubs on there, such as Rangers, and most recently Man Utd. The finances involved in this deal have not been made public, however when Ashley owned 10% of Rangers, he did a similar tie up with their store which resulted in them earning only 7p from every £1. It is only in this last month that Rangers have managed to wrestle free completely of any deal with Sports Direct. The clauses Rangers had meant that Sports Direct had the opportunity to match any deal Rangers were able to put together with another supplier. He also refused to sell the copyright to the club logo's to the new owners when he sold his share of the club. Ashley was able to hold Rangers to ransom for nearly a decade by only owning 10% of them. The damage he's will have done to us by owning 100% of us for 13 years is going to be interesting to see. At SJP there is over 100 Sports Direct advertising signs around the pitch. Up until 2 years ago the club did not receive a single penny for this. The clubs stance was that they were showcasing how advertising could look and were awaiting bids. A number of our fans with businesses of their own made bids for these advertising spaces at and above the market value. The club rejected the bids and their response was that they have not received bids at what they perceive as market value. The bids were independently looked at and deemed to be at market value, so how is those bids not market value and not as good as the £0 Sports Direct were paying? To put it simply, the maths do not add up, at least not if you are Newcastle United, it does if you are Sports Direct though. This year after being under pressure by both fans, and Sports Direct shareholders at the Sports Direct AGM's (Newcastle fans and journalist George Caulkin) Sports Direct are paying NUFC for the advertising, a fee of £2m, well below the market value, the previous 2 years the figure was even lower at £1m. Over all our commercial income since Ashley has took us over has declined. Thats not declined as in relation to inflation, that's means actually declined, I.E. the deals coming in are not as big as they were 13 years ago, even if you don't adjust for inflation. When Ashley bought the club included in the sale was some land just behind the Gallowgate end. The Gallowgate end is the only end of SJP that can be extended. The land had a market value of £50m before Ashley arrived, once he arrived though he sold the land to himself for £6m and leased the land back to the club for approximately £50m. Land which under Ashley's tenure the club admitted they would never use as the had no ambition to extend the stadium. In the last couple of weeks Ashley has sold this land to a Doncaster based developer, one which is owned by Michael Murray Snr, the father of Ashley's daughters boyfriend, Michael Murray Jnr, more about them both later. Now these developers have planning permission for buildings that would prevent the expansion of the Gallowgate end, and the local Metro system (the Metro line ends underneath it). The planning authorities told the developers if you moved the footprint back of a couple of the proposed buildings which they can do because theirs enough room, and it wouldn't result in any extra costs, then both the Gallowgate end and the Metro line could be extended in future. The developers refused, now there is no chance for the ground to be extended in future, or the Metro to be extended to the west end of the city, an area which suffers from poverty and low public transport services. I know a few members of the Newcastle Supporters Trust Board, the supporters trust for NUFC that is officially recognised by the FA. About a month ago I was able to talk to one of these board members. NUST have been in contact with the potential new owners of our club. It is their understanding that they expect Ashley to have taken closer to the £1bn than the £500m mark during his ownership of the club, and that is without the £300m he will be selling the club for. The true figure may never be known. With Ashley it's hard to look at the finances on paper and see which deals are legitimate and which aren't. Many of the deals that look legitimate aren't, for example the PR deal with KBR which he partly owns, the free advertising Sports Direct have had for 10 years, the club merchandise deals. Everything he has sold from and every deal he has made with the club, he has made with company he has an interest in. Ashley knows how to run a business: Ashley may very well know how to run a business. Like it or not he started Sports Direct through a £10k loan from his parents and went on to become one of countries richest men. If you do or don't agree with the way he got there that's not to say he hasn't succeeded. The thing you have to remember though is when Ashley owns a football, he does not see it as a business. A businessman would have invested or let the company invest it's own revenues to grow if they saw it as a business. Ashley does not see football clubs as a business. Many NUFC will blast me for saying that, but the truth is, Ashley see's a football club as his personal wallet. It has been pointed out where he has cut corners to save money, where he has not invested, where deals have always been made so the money half of it comes back to him. This is why I think Ashley will want a club that he think could get into the Premier League. If he managed to take a club into the Premier League Ashley will be happy to then make deals so the £100m per season earned from being there, will mostly fall back to him. However let's get away from this part. When Ashley first came the NUFC he put in charge a man called Chris Moat. Chris Moat was/is a lawyer and was heavily involved in the deal to buy the club on Ashley's side. He had known Ashley through previous business deals and became a close friend of his outside of business, similar to Keith Bishop. However Moat wasn't happy with the way Ashley started running the business, in fact he was worried that his own name would be tarnished. About a year or so in Moat left, his ambition was away to leave, but he did so a little sooner and apparently his relationship with Ashley soured and they are no longer friends. As it happens it is reported that Chris Moat is now assisting our prospective owners on their deal to buy the club. Ads his replacement Ashley brought in Derek Llambias. Remember me mentioning him? Yes that's right, he's the casino owner who Pardew allegedly got into debt with in order to get the job. Now Llambias had no experience of running a football club, all he knows is casino's and like many people involved with NUFC under Ashley, only got the job because he happens to be a friend of Ashley's. When fans started to turn onto Ashley, Llabias was once quoted as saying 'The fans think we are nasty, they have no idea how nasty we can'. Eventually Lambias had enough of NUFC and left, he later with Ashley to Rangers and was they key man behind ruining them. Without a replacement or a friend left to take on the role there wasn't many people left to run the club, remember when I said Ashley outsourced everything and got rid of the staff? One of the finance officers had left earlier to take a job in the aviation industry, and the only person there was underneath him was the man who was in charge of the box office who was quickly promoted to the finance side of things (Lee Chrnley). When Llambias did leave the former finance director had already left and the only person was the nearly promoted finance director, enter Lee Charnley. Since then Lee Charnley has been the man running from top to bottom. This man has to do everything and nothing happens at the club without his say so, this from hiring the manager, buying players, day to day running, organising sponsorships deals (the few that aren't related to Ashley), everything goes though him. A few years ago the clubs raided as part of an HMRC tax investigation, Lee Charnley was taken in for questioning, and his home was also raided. The fans joked that the club wouldn't comment on the matter until Lee Charnley was released as theirs no one at the club left who would be able to give a comment. A day later and 3 hours after his release, the club released the first statement, poor Lee was probably having to write that statement before being able to go back to his ransacked home, change out of his clothes he hastily put on the morning before during the raid, and have a shower. Poor Lee has never even got a pay rise from his earlier promotions until our fans mocked him about his wages, being lower than a lot of Championship club chairman at the time. Even with his recent wage wise, he's still one of the lower paid club CEO's in the Premier League, and has to 10 fold them amount of work. Late last year the supporters group had a meeting. At the meeting it was revelled that the club was very close to being deducted points because they were failing to provide adequate facilities for disabled supporters as in line with Premier League regulations. Now that in addition to the HMRC investigation which is still ongoing doesn't exactly sound like a club that's being well run does it? That's the thing with Ashley though, everyone who will run the club will have no interest in running the club and will be doing the bare minimum, and they will all effectively just be a yes man and a name to put down as a director. In the column, I wrote I mention how he already has his next yes man lined up. His name is Michael Murray, the son of a developer and bar owner in Doncaster of the same name. He knows Ashley because he is engaged to Ashley's eldest daughter. That's ok, he might know about business because of his dad? Actually no. I happen to have family in Doncaster who in turn know people there and know the Murrays. You see Michael Murray Jnr grew up with no business interest, in fact the story is he met Ashley's daughter whilst he was out in Ibiza acting as a DJ via daddy's cash, probably meeting via Ashley's son who was also doing the very same thing. Since his relationship with Ashley's daughter blossomed, so did Ashley's liking to him, and now he is a paid advisor at Sports Direct earning £10m a year. Many at Sports Direct are baffled at how an external advisor with no business experience is being paid a wage far higher than anyone else at the company, a wage of the like that no one has been paid since Ashley's brother was brought in to sort out some IT issues. Are you starting to see the pattern here? In recent years there has been rumours of Lee Charnley being offered various positions, one at an airport (given to him by the man who promoted him at Newcastle), and one at Newcastle racecourse, the latter of which now seems unlikely considering the Rueben brothers now own the racecourse and likely won't be happy at the damage at NUFC that he's signed over. Anyway, it's long been my fear that sooner or later the next person in line to head NUFC will be Micheal Murray Jnr, the only way of escaping this would only happen if Ashley sold us. However if Ashley does invest in another football club, there is no doubt that he'll be the yes man he chooses to place in charge. I hope that I have been able to give a lot of context towards Ashleys and what he's like. I'm not going to sit here and say he's better than your current owner or not, because as an outsider I simply won't know the ins and outs of your club that well. It simply is nit my place for me to say what you will and won't accept as supporters of your club. In my opinion if Ashley did take you over, then the height of his ambition would be for you to yo-yo, and I don't think he would allow you to invest the kind of money that would be required to do that, regardless of if you generate it or not. Ashley will always want to do things on a budget, buying your or a Championship club for next to nothing compared to the money he will earn from the sale of us will be seen as bargain for him, the thing is he'll want to be able to get promoted for much less than what other clubs hope to do it with, ultimately I think he'd end up allowing you or any other Championship club to fall further down the league than up it. Much like how his ambition for us was to stay in the Premier League and he failed twice. If there is anything you want to ask them feel free to ask. For what it's worth, I have respect for your club. Your fans are the best fans I've seen come to Newcastle, and generated the best home atmosphere I've been too during my away day travels. I hope to see you back in the Premier League soon enough, and hope you can achieve it without having someone like Ashley at your club. I have attached the original column piece that I wrote for added context. https://www.themag.co.uk/2020/04/warning-mike-ashley-isnt-finished-with-football-after-newcastle-united/
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