Popular Post Kevowls1 Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 Yes this season standards and expectations are high. Wednesdayites have been very patient, but now promotion is the minimum we will accept and its Automatic we want! Are we wrong to feel this way?? I think not! We are realistic to demand Automatic Promotion with the club and squad we have. And we are right not to accept the status quo. Stats will not pacify Wednesdayites. I don't dismiss them but our standards are even higher than them! Admittedly I quote stats sometimes, they are a great motivator and they support arguments. But spectators are more credible than stats! We are witnesses and we're not daft! We have some of the best supporters and I want the team to reflect our great club! Results have been just okay, but performances are not fillings us with confidence that we will get what we want: PROMOTION! Okay is not good enough and yes we EXPECT and demand better! Standards need to be high for promotion, what is wrong with that?? Draws and losses in important matches are not good enough. Would supporters at clubs with simular potential to ours put up with low level football for so long? That said, we have vital players coming back now and we have some big games coming up, so there's a chance for Moore and the players to make or break this season. A change in management is too risky now, unless someone with great credentials comes available. So please Wednesdayites keep backing the players and Moore for now. Wednesdayites are not settling for okay anymore! Keep expectations high, keep supporting the team and stay positive, we will have promotion this season! 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sunburn Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Expectations have to be high. It’s pro ball, not school yard games. I’m always concerned about the holiday stretch particularly in recent memory. Maintaining my optimism. UTO 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshowl Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 It’s promotion or bust this season. Whether top 2 or playoffs I don’t care. But as we all know it’s a lottery in the playoff and the most heartbreaking way to fail. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1966 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Cheshowl said: It’s promotion or bust this season. Whether top 2 or playoffs I don’t care. But as we all know it’s a lottery in the playoff and the most heartbreaking way to fail. Our standard need to be higher need to explain this to players and management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Kevowls1 said: But spectators are more credible than stats! We are witnesses and we're not daft! Has reading Owlstalk taught you nothing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Kevowls1 said: But spectators are more credible than stats! Stopped reading after that 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edinburghowl Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 I’d say if anything standards and expectations have been way too low, and for a long long time. Sheffield Wednesday and the fans have accepted worse than mediocrity for much too long. Promotion is the only acceptable outcome this season. 19 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Kevowls1 said: Yes this season standards and expectations are high. Wednesdayites have been very patient, but now promotion is the minimum we will accept and its Automatic we want! Are we wrong to feel this way?? I think not! We are realistic to demand Automatic Promotion with the club and squad we have. And we are right not to accept the status quo. Stats will not pacify Wednesdayites. I don't dismiss them but our standards are even higher than them! Admittedly I quote stats sometimes, they are a great motivator and they support arguments. But spectators are more credible than stats! We are witnesses and we're not daft! We have some of the best supporters and I want the team to reflect our great club! Results have been just okay, but performances are not fillings us with confidence that we will get what we want: PROMOTION! Okay is not good enough and yes we EXPECT and demand better! Standards need to be high for promotion, what is wrong with that?? Draws and losses in important matches are not good enough. Would supporters at clubs with simular potential to ours put up with low level football for so long? That said, we have vital players coming back now and we have some big games coming up, so there's a chance for Moore and the players to make or break this season. A change in management is too risky now, unless someone with great credentials comes available. So please Wednesdayites keep backing the players and Moore for now. Wednesdayites are not settling for okay anymore! Keep expectations high, keep supporting the team and stay positive, we will have promotion this season! No!!!!!! How can anyone's expectations be too high? surely we want to be as successful as possible? Why anyone would settle for second best I really don't understand. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 After all the years of serial failure due to not having solid foundations put in place then I’ll happily settle for someone to be given the necessary time to do this necessity first. Only then will we stand a realistic chance of sustained progression and hopefully success. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Django Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 I’d say the opposite. Standards and expectations aren’t high enough We’ve been rubbish for that long, many of our fans accept and make excuses for any old sheite 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 We've done ok by and large but the last 3 games have been very concerning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Before every game I expect we'll win so I guess my expectations are on the high side ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 It's reasonable to expect promotion from this league. It's not reasonable to expect champagne football every week, rolling teams over (although I accept, as do the players and manager it seems that we've fallen below expected performance levels of late). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imre Varadi Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Not when the likes of Toytown,Blackpool,Wigan and Huddersfield are a league above us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Jim said: After all the years of serial failure due to not having solid foundations put in place then I’ll happily settle for someone to be given the necessary time to do this necessity first. Only then will we stand a realistic chance of sustained progression and hopefully success. Doesnt work that way Jim,where have you been??...we dont have players coming through the ranks that cost us nowt,and that go on to play for us,or make us a few bob..(in the main,). Its about bringing in 'free's' & bargain basement end of contract players,decent loan players& than getting the best out of them,with a systym that suits.... Are we doing that?...Mighten,Wilks,Smith.......all players who have scored goals at this level for other Clubs....Wing the same last Year..... Whats the common denominator?....... What we got going for us,is our ability to pay higher wages,so of course 'free's' never are free are they?.... If we dont get promotion players will come and go,to be replaced by players probably not as good and our chances of promotion will wither on the vine.. Happened to Sunderland didnt it?...Ditto Dem Blades.....(and others) You think the Chairman will change?... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 The expectation of promotion isn’t too high. The expectation of winning every game, not going through bad patches of results/standards, outplaying every opponent and scoring 5 goals per match is high. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Is it too much to expect 100% effort for 90 minutes a week? Or is 20 minutes good enough for some people. Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. If this team was as hard working or organised as some teams we've played this season, they would win most games and we wouldn't be having these threads. It's no coincidence that our best run of this and last season was in an 'injury crisis' where we had to rely on pressing and workrate by 'not proper footballers' and 'binmen' to win games. And win they did. And when they did lose, v Rotherham, they were applauded off the pitch as they'd given 100% and the fans couldn't ask for more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, parajack said: Doesnt work that way Jim,where have you been??...we dont have players coming through the ranks that cost us nowt,and that go on to play for us,or make us a few bob..(in the main,). Its about bringing in 'free's' & bargain basement end of contract players,decent loan players& than getting the best out of them,with a systym that suits.... Are we doing that?...Mighten,Wilks,Smith.......all players who have scored goals at this level for other Clubs....Wing the same last Year..... Whats the common denominator?....... What we got going for us,is our ability to pay higher wages,so of course 'free's' never are free are they?.... If we dont get promotion players will come and go,to be replaced by players probably not as good and our chances of promotion will wither on the vine.. Happened to Sunderland didnt it?...Ditto Dem Blades.....(and others) You think the Chairman will change?... I think he already has, Jack. He has stayed in the background virtually since the day Moore was appointed. I think the penny has finally dropped and we’re on a journey where things are and will be put in place to serve us both in the present and in the future. Regardless of popular opinion on here, I believe Moore is going to get the time to build the club. If the fans aren’t happy then fair enough. They never are at the best of times so it doesn’t make any difference, does it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wakefieldowl Posted December 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2022 We are the biggest under achievers in the entire country. No other similar size club has failed so misrably as SW Of course we expect promotion. Anything else is total failure 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: Stopped reading after that As your logo indicates you like 'Soul' Todays piece of trivia Dave Godin a good friend of mine,credited with inventing the term 'Northern Soul' & owner of the Deep Soul label RIP....contempory of Mick Jagger...Used to buy & sell/play Motown * 'soul' in London...50s 60s onward Dave came to Sheffield to do a media studies degree,& whilst here promoted 'You make me feel mighty real' by the late great Sylvester to no 1 in he UK..Berry Gordy sent him the promo disc Dave told him for the UK market to flip the US side and use the B side for the UK.... Rest is history.....When Dave went to Detroit Gordy brought out the entire Motown stable to welcome,and thank him..Marvin Gaye,the lot.... Now to footy,the ONLY stat that will matter this season,is who finishs first,and second..... Play Offs are a poor consolation,and for 3 out of the 4 abject misery(again) Edited December 22, 2022 by parajack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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