TodwickOwl Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 We’ve got to fit Gregory in, however way possible he has to start - Windass offered very little today, but we can’t play Smith and Gregory - not sure what the answer is here, not sure Wilks is worthy of a start just yet. I think we’d work and make more chances off Gregory than we are doing now, we’re getting over the line but he’s the talisman of last year and brings everyone into play from the top in a cute way, too good for the bench. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S6owls Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Agree 100% he chases the ball down and always runs till he's f@@ked Ball seems to stick to him a lot more than smith too and like you say gives the team time to push on, maybe wilks and mighten either side of him could work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Think Gregory is going to be used more away than home. Expect to see starting at Derby and Exeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: We’ve got to fit Gregory in, however way possible he has to start - Windass offered very little today, but we can’t play Smith and Gregory - not sure what the answer is here, not sure Wilks is worthy of a start just yet. I think we’d work and make more chances off Gregory than we are doing now, we’re getting over the line but he’s the talisman of last year and brings everyone into play from the top in a cute way, too good for the bench. Why not Smith & Gregory? We’ve started them six times:- P6. W4. D2. L0 I looked this up yesterday because my eyes tell me they are easily our best front pairing and I wanted to see if the facts back it up. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megsonstheman Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Gregory starts every time for me. Windass is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is so how Moore picks him ahead of Gregory is beyond me. Apparently, both players contracts are up at the end of this season....give Gregory another year and say goodbye to Windass 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, megsonstheman said: Gregory starts every time for me. Windass is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is so how Moore picks him ahead of Gregory is beyond me. Apparently, both players contracts are up at the end of this season....give Gregory another year and say goodbye to Windass Be a good idea seeing as we have a years option on Windass. Windass is a good player without doubt and we were offered over 1 million for him but let's just let him walk out the door for nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Why not Smith & Gregory? We’ve started them six times:- P6. W4. D2. L0 I looked this up yesterday because my eyes tell me they are easily our best front pairing and I wanted to see if the facts back it up. 100% this…people saying they can’t play together, is utter testicles. Moore is trying to get Windass in the side weekly and that’s the issue…it’s simply not working. Mighten isn’t looking anything like either. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I used to be a big fan of Windass but since his return from injury he just doesn’t seem to produce enough in the position he’s taking on the field. I know there’s a stat that he’s been involved in a 3rd of our goals or something but that’s because he’s been on the pitch, clearly he’s not a bad player. But I actually think we’d be even more effective as a unit with two centre forwards like Smith and Gregory. With Bannan, FDB and Byers in midfield roles. I’d be looking to sign a pacy centre forward in January as an option to play alongside Smith or Gregory in a front two. As Wilks is clearly a wide forward and Mighten is a winger/wing back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Why not Smith & Gregory? We’ve started them six times:- P6. W4. D2. L0 I looked this up yesterday because my eyes tell me they are easily our best front pairing and I wanted to see if the facts back it up. Agree. Smith and Gregory do work as a pair. It’s Windass that is the ‘problem’. Clearly he isn’t a player we can afford to have on the bench but he doesn’t fit into a midfield three (BB, GB, FDB is our best three). In a 3-5-2 that means he’d have to fit in a wing-back (can’t see that) or in a 4-4-2 as a wide player (much more likely). I suspect in the short term it might be irrelevant as he didn’t look good when he went off yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) . Edited November 20, 2022 by agentwalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megsonstheman Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, 4evaowl said: Agree. Smith and Gregory do work as a pair. It’s Windass that is the ‘problem’. Clearly he isn’t a player we can afford to have on the bench but he doesn’t fit into a midfield three (BB, GB, FDB is our best three). In a 3-5-2 that means he’d have to fit in a wing-back (can’t see that) or in a 4-4-2 as a wide player (much more likely). I suspect in the short term it might be irrelevant as he didn’t look good when he went off yesterday. Why are you trying to "shoehorn" Windass into the side....he isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 My issue with Windass is he drifts into areas that impede what others are trying to do. Mitens, although not playing well is better when he has space to run at players. Windass keeps drifting into his space constantly, making it very crowded on the wing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Windass probably won’t be playing for a while anyway with that groin injury. I still think some people are being harsh on him at the minute regarding his ability, he’s a very good player, albeit sometimes frustrating at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Gregory's ability to kill the ball dead with his first touch and link up play is invaluable. Smith's hold up play is solid and he works hard, but he's not as technically good a footballer. Windass is talented, but doesn't seem to have a defined position. Bit of a luxury item that we are trying to shoehorn in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, agentwalker said: . Good point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeyswfc Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 In our 532 I much prefer seeing Gregory and Smith start. That said Windass is better in his role behind the strikers, he’s never been an out and out striker but has great link up play. If we are playing with 3 up top id like it to be Windass behind 2. Rather than wingers as I haven’t been impressed with Wilks or Mighten so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, 4evaowl said: Agree. Smith and Gregory do work as a pair. It’s Windass that is the ‘problem’. Clearly he isn’t a player we can afford to have on the bench but he doesn’t fit into a midfield three (BB, GB, FDB is our best three). In a 3-5-2 that means he’d have to fit in a wing-back (can’t see that) or in a 4-4-2 as a wide player (much more likely). I suspect in the short term it might be irrelevant as he didn’t look good when he went off yesterday. Windass being out brings the opportunity to start Smith & Gregory together. However, don’t be surprised if Moore tries Wilks instead, or adopts a Mighten-Smith-Wilks forward line. The sooner he puts faith in Smith & Gregory the sooner we’ll dominate this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, lukeyswfc said: In our 532 I much prefer seeing Gregory and Smith start. That said Windass is better in his role behind the strikers, he’s never been an out and out striker but has great link up play. If we are playing with 3 up top id like it to be Windass behind 2. Rather than wingers as I haven’t been impressed with Wilks or Mighten so far. Even in that role Windass is simply way too gready. The strikers feed off scraps while he takes 4 shots a game from 30 yards. Bannan is the answer in that role. His decision-making and quality of delivery is on a different planet compared to Windass, plus he actually scores more goals! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeyswfc Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Even in that role Windass is simply way too gready. The strikers feed off scraps while he takes 4 shots a game from 30 yards. Bannan is the answer in that role. His decision-making and quality of delivery is on a different planet compared to Windass, plus he actually scores more goals! I agree, Bannan would be ideal there giving us Vaulks Byers and 1 from Dele and Bakinson behind. However I think when fit Windass will start so was trying to find a home for him and behind the strikers is probably his best spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Even in that role Windass is simply way too gready. The strikers feed off scraps while he takes 4 shots a game from 30 yards. Bannan is the answer in that role. His decision-making and quality of delivery is on a different planet compared to Windass, plus he actually scores more goals! Absolutely....if you are going to give anyone the no.10/ free role high up the pitch it should be Bannan, rather than Windass....more end product and creativity This also gives more strength in midfield with Byers, Bakinson, Vaulks which will be important at places like Derby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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