Our formation (again)

[Emerson Thome]

I am increasingly confused what it is.

 

If you only watched the right-hand side of the pitch, it is like a 3-5-2 with Iorfa at right wing-back. But if you watched the left it is a 4-3-3 with Reece James at left back and Alex Mighten on the left wing.

 

You could say: "Well, it is a 4-3-3 and Windass is just tucking in offer the right wing", but he seemed to barely ever be on the right wing and was lining up more like a centre forward, so rather than tucked in it was like a completely different position (you can see below how he was our furthest player forward by a mile).

 

Windass went off in the 75th minute and played his last 7 minutes on the pitch on the left flank, so that has moved his average position dot a bit further to the left on the pitch map below than perhaps it should be. But I think even without those final 7 minutes, his average position would be somewhere to the left of the penalty spot.

 

Or was Dele-Bashiru our tucked in right midfielder in a 4-4-2? I give up. Whatever it was it worked (kind of).

 

 

 

[SiJ]

Pretty sure we played with a back four today. 

 

Where it does get confusing is I can't quit work out whether we are playing a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3. 

 

As that diagram shows, Mighten is clearly playing as a left winger, but there was no right winger per se. It was similar last week against Accrington. 

[deano]

Mighten in the FF role, problem is that he isn't particularly good. Has some decent moments but not convinced. 

[striker]

Whatever the second half was, it was a mess and didn't work. 

 

We got the win though and that's all that matters. 

[Albertowl]

We had nothing going forward on the right. Completely unbalanced set up meant every time we went forward in the first half it was down our left flank. Bizarre when Palmer was sat on the bench. We should have been very easy to defend against. 

For the last 12 months we have scored for fun at home playing with wing backs and getting crosses in. Why have we abandoned a system that has clearly worked for us?

[Mike Hunt]

How are ordinary fans expected to know who played where when the players haven’t got a clue ?

[pat blondeau]

42 minutes ago, Emerson Thome said:

I am increasingly confused what it is.

 

If you only watched the right-hand side of the pitch, it is like a 3-5-2 with Iorfa at right wing-back. But if you watched the left it is a 4-3-3 with Reece James at left back and Alex Mighten on the left wing.

 

You could say: "Well, it is a 4-3-3 and Windass is just tucking in offer the right wing", but he seemed to barely ever be on the right wing and was lining up more like a centre forward, so rather than tucked in it was like a completely different position (you can see below how he was our furthest player forward by a mile).

 

Windass went off in the 75th minute and played his last 7 minutes on the pitch on the left flank, so that has moved his average position dot a bit further to the left on the pitch map below than perhaps it should be. But I think even without those final 7 minutes, his average position would be somewhere to the left of the penalty spot.

 

Or was Dele-Bashiru our tucked in right midfielder in a 4-4-2? I give up. Whatever it was it worked (kind of).

 

 

 

 

Windass isn’t a wide right is he. I think that’s where we was supposed to be playing today but he was drifting all over.

 

After watching us the last 2 games the question is can we get Bannan, Windass and Dele Bashiru in the same 11? They’re all at the best playing as a number 10 and Moore is trying to come up with a formation to fit the 3 of them in.

 

We’ve picked up 6 points from the last 2 games but we haven’t functioned as an attacking unit in either game 

[hangonrose]

47 minutes ago, Emerson Thome said:

I am increasingly confused what it is.

 

If you only watched the right-hand side of the pitch, it is like a 3-5-2 with Iorfa at right wing-back. But if you watched the left it is a 4-3-3 with Reece James at left back and Alex Mighten on the left wing.

 

You could say: "Well, it is a 4-3-3 and Windass is just tucking in offer the right wing", but he seemed to barely ever be on the right wing and was lining up more like a centre forward, so rather than tucked in it was like a completely different position (you can see below how he was our furthest player forward by a mile).

 

Windass went off in the 75th minute and played his last 7 minutes on the pitch on the left flank, so that has moved his average position dot a bit further to the left on the pitch map below than perhaps it should be. But I think even without those final 7 minutes, his average position would be somewhere to the left of the penalty spot.

 

Or was Dele-Bashiru our tucked in right midfielder in a 4-4-2? I give up. Whatever it was it worked (kind of).

 

 

 

 

[nbupperthongowl]

I thought it was more 4-3-2-1, Christmas tree formation with Windass and Mighten supporting Smith or providing (some) width, depending on how we attacked??

[hangonrose]

48 minutes ago, Emerson Thome said:

I am increasingly confused what it is.

 

If you only watched the right-hand side of the pitch, it is like a 3-5-2 with Iorfa at right wing-back. But if you watched the left it is a 4-3-3 with Reece James at left back and Alex Mighten on the left wing.

 

You could say: "Well, it is a 4-3-3 and Windass is just tucking in offer the right wing", but he seemed to barely ever be on the right wing and was lining up more like a centre forward, so rather than tucked in it was like a completely different position (you can see below how he was our furthest player forward by a mile).

 

Windass went off in the 75th minute and played his last 7 minutes on the pitch on the left flank, so that has moved his average position dot a bit further to the left on the pitch map below than perhaps it should be. But I think even without those final 7 minutes, his average position would be somewhere to the left of the penalty spot.

 

Or was Dele-Bashiru our tucked in right midfielder in a 4-4-2? I give up. Whatever it was it worked (kind of).

 

 

 

And if we're confused, think how the opposites feel....

[Mike Hunt]

Dele , Windass and Mighten were all passengers today 

no shape , no responsibility 

 

 

[S72 Owl]

4-4-2 with Mighten hugging the left and Dele starting tucked in but asked to cover the right hand side when possible.

 

This would work much better if the wingers were the other way round because James is much better going forward than Iorfa. 

[Costello 77]

We aren't half missing Byers.

Holds the midfield.

[Pastor Kidneys]

Imagine being an opposing manager sending someone to scout us 

[Avon barksdale]

Still think it should be Gregory and smith up top , bannan or Windass just behind and Bannan is so much better ! 

[deano]

8 minutes ago, Costello 77 said:

We aren't half missing Byers.

Holds the midfield.

Absolutely, alway makes himself available like Bannan. 

 

I've banged on about this for months now but it Dele B was receiving the ball in positions which Mighten did today you would see much more productivity imo.

[Dutch McLovin]

1 hour ago, SiJ said:

Pretty sure we played with a back four today. 

 

Where it does get confusing is I can't quit work out whether we are playing a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3. 

 

As that diagram shows, Mighten is clearly playing as a left winger, but there was no right winger per se. It was similar last week against Accrington. 

See I’m pretty sure we played with a back 3 until we made the subs  

 

So confused 

[Bigblueowl]

If we were a boat we'd be tipping over. 

[jonnyowl]

Totally imbalanced today.

 

FDB is wasted on the pitch if he isn't playing behind the striker.

 

He should have put Windass high on the right and FDB down the middle supporting Smith.

[Owls2k]

39 minutes ago, Pastor Kidneys said:

Imagine being an opposing manager sending someone to scout us 

More importantly, imagine being the players.