tjchitt86 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 For a side with physical players such as McGuiness, Ihiekwe, Dele-Bashiru, Windass, Smith and Heneghan when he was fit , it's amazing how little a threat we pose at corners. Half is to do with delivery and the other half is the actual players in the box. Bannan is clearly a fantastic player, peerless at this level with a brilliant passing range but I really wish Darren would let someone else have a go at an in-swinger on what would suit a right footed delivery. It was particularly bad at Accrington. He just looped the ball to the far post and left it hanging in the air long enough for the defenders to clear. He's far more effective in-swinging with his left foot but even then, we don't seem to attack the ball with any great purpose. Famous last words but we've got better at defending corners and crosses in general as the season has gone on and although we're finding other ways to score the goals, I'd really like to see us chip in with a few goals from corners. It's almost as we've focused so much on defending crosses that attacking them has been overlooked. Win the first header, cause a bit of panic (like teams caused us last season) and toe poke it home! Would love to see us try something different because at the moment we're too easy to defend against at corners. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetherivelinowl Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Thanks for raising this. How strange that we have spread the goals around the team this season but not one has come from a centre-half. Bannan doesn't hit many obviously bad corners - they usually get into the right areas - but we rarely seem to get on the end of them. I thought Byers hit a couple of great corners, fizzing across at head height, in his last match. TBH I thought both Smith and Ihiekwe would be beasts in the air but actually Heneghan, McGuiness or even Dom seem to be more of a threat. When we do score from corners it's been little uns like Windass and Byers who've had more joy. And I wish we'd try more short corners to tee-up Johnson's left peg. (Same with deep free-kicks - everyone lines up on the 12-yard line for a ball floated to the back post. Why not play a quick ball to one of the front men to tee-up an onrushing Johnson? He's always stood in acres of space.) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Not really Bannans fault that Ihiekwe shouldered an open goal from his floaty back post cross allowing their bloke to clear it off the line though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Not floaty corners 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjchitt86 Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nero said: Not really Bannans fault that Ihiekwe shouldered an open goal from his floaty back post cross allowing their bloke to clear it off the line though. It isn't. That's why I said the issue is half the delivery and half the attacking of the corner itself. That was a great in-swinging delivery from Bannan. Ihiekwe should have buried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holmowl Posted November 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2022 Really good point. Smith, Gregory and our CBs always threaten but we hardly score. I love Bannan to bits but I think he’d be better waiting outside the box rather than taking all the corners. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Yes, we don't seem to score enough from set plays/corners. You've got some absolute monsters at CB in this team now, who should be chipping in with 3, 4 goals season. Massive part of the game that can make all the difference in a tight game against frustrating opposition. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgradeowl Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 This is a moot point and it seems to me ( although I am no coach) that we tend to deliver floaty balls to static players waiting around the six yard box. Recalling the ‘halcyon’ days of Reda Liguera, we used to put the ball hard into danger areas and ask players to ATTACK it! Putting the ball into space invites players to run in and meet it; floating on to their heads means it is doubly difficult to hit the back of the net. Let’s see lower, harder crosses with our players charging in to meet the ball. Result- BOOM - back of the net! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fablon Dunlop Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Holmowl said: Really good point. Smith, Gregory and our CBs always threaten but we hardly score. I love Bannan to bits but I think he’d be better waiting outside the box rather than taking all the corners. Definitely. Waiting to pick up a ball on the outside of the box to leather it home. Windass and Byers are both capable corner takers. Let them have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Belgradeowl said: This is a moot point and it seems to me ( although I am no coach) that we tend to deliver floaty balls to static players waiting around the six yard box. Recalling the ‘halcyon’ days of Reda Liguera, we used to put the ball hard into danger areas and ask players to ATTACK it! Putting the ball into space invites players to run in and meet it; floating on to their heads means it is doubly difficult to hit the back of the net. Let’s see lower, harder crosses with our players charging in to meet the ball. Result- BOOM - back of the net! Can't agree more our generally 50p plastic ball we had as kids floaty corners aren't good. They're easy for a decent assertive keeper to come claim. They also mean the player on the end of it HAS to generate almost all the power in the header,not easy if your stood stil. Even as kids your thought to run into the box and attack the cross,hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 When we get a corner, I can't get excited as I never feel like we are going to score from one. Well not from an initial header anyway, more likely from a 2nd ball or a shot from the edge of the penalty area as a defender heads it out. Saw the pigs game v Burnley the other day and they looked dangerous on every corner. Looked like they were going to score every time they had one. I like Douglas Luis's corners for Aston Villa. He fires them in fast with inswing to the angle of the near post and crossbar. He's scored a few direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Poor coaching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt68owls Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Megson corner, flicked on at the near post with our defenders coming charging into power home, it used to work 30 years ago so I'm not sure why it won't nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Can't be ar5ed to check, but I'm sure we scored the most goals from corners last season (or certainly in the top 6), it is the same corner taker for the majority of the time, so what has changed? We still have plenty of height, are we doing different this time around, or is it just one of those weird anomalies, that we will even out over the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, matt68owls said: Megson corner, flicked on at the near post with our defenders coming charging into power home, it used to work 30 years ago so I'm not sure why it won't nowadays. Cos' Megson's 60 now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrs Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, royalowlisback said: Can't be ar5ed to check, but I'm sure we scored the most goals from corners last season (or certainly in the top 6), it is the same corner taker for the majority of the time, so what has changed? We still have plenty of height, are we doing different this time around, or is it just one of those weird anomalies, that we will even out over the season? I think you're right about last season. And it is strange. We've got the same manager/tactics and same corner taker, and have replaced the likes of Hutchinson, Storey and Berahino with Heneghan, McGuiness and Smith so you'd think we'd be even stronger. Although I can't find any stats anywhere to back any of this up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Just don't think our center backs are very good attacking corner's. Scored a couple near post corners earlier on. Contrast to last year when dunkley (who has history of scoring from set pieces) had his purple patch in November/December and looked like scoring from nearly every corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 minute ago, paulrs said: I think you're right about last season. And it is strange. We've got the same manager/tactics and same corner taker, and have replaced the likes of Hutchinson, Storey and Berahino with Heneghan, McGuiness and Smith so you'd think we'd be even stronger. Although I can't find any stats anywhere to back any of this up! Missed dunkley off list of replaced CBs who was excellent at attacking set pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 We were always taught to keep the ball away from the opponents biggest defender and their keeper We should have our biggest forward dragging the biggest defender away from the central area, drag him to the back post, drop the ball at the front post and visa versa. Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 6 hours ago, CalmJimmers said: Not floaty corners We must work on corners like every other club, but why oh why do we insist on Bannan`s floaty corners/ set pieces, let's face it if we're going to call him out its on his set pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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