SiJ Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 The moment I heard him say it I knew there would be a furore. It really doesn't bother me and I don't think he's meant to cause offence. At the end of the day, he's a bloke in his 60s throwing old a lazy cliche. I'm a pretty liberally lefty type, but this seems like a storm in a teacup. Perhaps not the greatest bit of punditry, but people need to take a step back. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 59 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: You honestly think he was treating fans with contempt by describing the physicality of the mens game in this way? Seriously?? Yeah, along with other things. If it's so obvious then why say it. You pay a fair whack for Sky Sports so I'd want pundits to spend time telling me things that I might not know. 'Football is a physical game'. Thanks for the expert knowledge Graeme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 4 hours ago, katie melua said: Completely taken out of context. Would she be doing the same thing if the pundits at the Brentford v Man Utd game said it was like watching Men against Boys? Don't get me wrong, I can sort of understand this day and age why this was raised. But there was no malice behind it at all. 2 hours ago, markg said: Probably no malice. But what’s the point in saying a game featuring men is a men’s game. Waste of words and airtime. 2 hours ago, TrickyTrev said: Mens football is a man’s game. Women's football is a woman’s game. I really don’t see the issue here. Maybe watch it He talks about football being a man’s game because tackling is back He isn’t saying it’s like ‘men v boys’, he’s isn’t talking about men’s football he’s saying men play physical football not women. It’s a poor comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Just now, McRightSide said: Maybe watch it He talks about football being a man’s game because tackling is back He isn’t saying it’s like ‘men v boys’, he’s isn’t talking about men’s football he’s saying men play physical football not women. It’s a poor comment. I watched it and I agree with you. but even if he didn’t mean it in that way, it’s lazy, boring punditry which is short changing viewers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 If anything, it's more a slight on the modern men's game than it is on the women's game. i.e. he's implying that the current game is full of "softies", whilst back in his day they were all snapping each others legs etc. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) Am I missing something? I think on this occasion it's something over absolutely nothing. Beth England probably trying to stoke the fire and provoke a reaction from people. Edited August 15, 2022 by TheEnchanter 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTLiam Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 4 hours ago, mrbluesky said: He's nailed it there! Best pundit in sport! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 I don’t what has dismayed me more today. The reactionary content of this thread or the ‘Did you boo’ one in Matchday. The country is going backwards quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, McRightSide said: He isn’t saying it’s like ‘men v boys’, he’s isn’t talking about men’s football he’s saying men play physical football not women He's not saying that at all. He absolutely didn't infer or refer to women or women's football. I dont particularly like Souness but he's getting some unfair grief on this. Totally out of proportion and people putting 2 and 2 together and making 5. A non story but I suppose he'll be forced to quit now due to P.C. pressure https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62548431 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Sham67 said: I don’t what has dismayed me more today. The reactionary content of this thread or the ‘Did you boo’ one in Matchday. The country is going backwards quickly. Totally agree Our society has become a cesspit... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) I’m a lefty snowflake but the examination of every word uttered is so tiresome. We all know what he meant. Edited August 15, 2022 by BIG D 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) Equality is going the same way as racism. Edited August 15, 2022 by vulva 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: He's not saying that at all. He absolutely didn't infer or refer to women or women's football. I dont particularly like Souness but he's getting some unfair grief on this. Totally out of proportion and people putting 2 and 2 together and making 5. A non story but I suppose he'll be forced to quit now due to P.C. pressure https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62548431 Should be made to quit for his crap lazy punditry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, vulva said: Equality is going the same way as racism. What way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, markg said: What way? In the way that the rent a protest mob get hold of the issue/problem/agenda and blow things all out of proportion. The Womens Euros was brilliant. But let’s not forget the average attendance in the Womens Premier League was around 1500 last season. Equality isn’t the issue. Interest in it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, markg said: Should be made to quit for his crap lazy punditry If most pundits had to quit for that we'd have no pundits left. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 hours ago, McRightSide said: Maybe watch it He talks about football being a man’s game because tackling is back He isn’t saying it’s like ‘men v boys’, he’s isn’t talking about men’s football he’s saying men play physical football not women. It’s a poor comment. He didn’t say anything about women. Speaking to Talksport on Monday, 69-year-old Souness said he regretted "not a word" of what he said in Sunday's broadcast. "Let me explain," he said. "I've been advocating for years that the referees have such a major part to play in the success of the Premier League. "We've got to be careful what we say today and I've not been very good at that, but we were becoming like other leagues. "The refs were blowing the whistle all the time, the game didn't flow and it just wasn't a very good watch. Our game has always been unique, always been more meaty, more in our face, more intense and we've got away from that. "Yesterday in my comments I said we've got our game back. That's the kind of football I remember playing. Our league will be better for it - we are back." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 What I think we all want to know is where is Paul Pogba in all of this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, SiJ said: If anything, it's more a slight on the modern men's game than it is on the women's game. i.e. he's implying that the current game is full of "softies", whilst back in his day they were all snapping each others legs etc. So he’s implying that it’s a man’s game because it’s not full of softies. What kind of football matches aren’t full of men? 54 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: He's not saying that at all. He absolutely didn't infer or refer to women or women's football. I dont particularly like Souness but he's getting some unfair grief on this. Totally out of proportion and people putting 2 and 2 together and making 5. A non story but I suppose he'll be forced to quit now due to P.C. pressure https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62548431 It’s just a sloppy comment. There is no need for him to talk about whether or not football is a ‘man’s game’ Saying it was a good, physical battle and he enjoyed it is more than adequate. No need to refer to it being a ‘man’s game’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, McRightSide said: So he’s implying that it’s a man’s game because it’s not full of softies. What kind of football matches aren’t full of men? Why are you getting so angry? Not saying I agreed with it, just pointing out that his remark was more of a slight on the men's game. Chill the f*ck out. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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