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Nope, I've been saying it since the beginning of last season

 

We let 6 centre half's go at the end of last season

 

We've brought 3 in

 

It's another catastrophe waiting to happen

 

Unless you don't mind seeing a back 3 of Palmer, Patterson and Johnson again

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1 minute ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

Nope, I've been saying it since the beginning of last season

 

We let 6 centre half's go at the end of last season

 

We've brought 3 in

 

It's another catastrophe waiting to happen

 

Unless you don't mind seeing a back 3 of Palmer, Patterson and Johnson again

need at least another 2 

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Heneghan 

Ihiekwe 

Iorfa 

Famewo 

Palmer and Galvin to cover 

 

2 more ?  Don’t see the need, you would probably take 1 more if it’s a Harlee Dean type but anymore than that and your gonna struggle to keep all them players happy,  not really sure how he’s gonna do it with all the options in central midfield if am honest but you will still get people saying we need another CDM 

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Heneghan 

Ihiekwe 

Iorfa 

Famewo 

Palmer and Galvin to cover 

 

2 more ?  Don’t see the need, you would probably take 1 more if it’s a Harlee Dean type but anymore than that and your gonna struggle to keep all them players happy,  not really sure how he’s gonna do it with all the options in central midfield if am honest but you will still get people saying we need another CDM 

Last season Iorfa, Hurchinson, Gibson and Dunkley, our only 4 senior centre half's all got injured at the same time

 

Just imagine Iorfa, Iheikwe, Henegan and Famewo all being injured at the same time

 

Would you be comfortable with a back 3 of Palmer, Galvin and Patterson or Johnson playing centre half  in the same game

 

We've made the mistake once

 

We need two more centre half's which will give us 6, then we have Palmer and Galvin to cover

 

We've got 6 central midfield players for 3 midfield slots

 

4 strikers for 2 slots

 

4 wingbacks in Hunt, Palmer, Johnson and James for 2 spots

 

We need 6 centre half's for 3 spots, not 4 centre half's and 2 utility players

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1 minute ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

Last season Iorfa, Hurchinson, Gibson and Dunkley, our only 4 senior centre half's all got injured at the same time

 

Just imagine Iorfa, Iheikwe, Henegan and Famewo all being injured at the same time

 

Would you be comfortable with a back 3 of Palmer, Galvin and Patterson or Johnson playing centre half  in the same game

 

We've made the mistake once

 

We need two more centre half's which will give us 6, then we have Palmer and Galvin to cover

 

We've got 6 central midfield players for 3 midfield slots

 

4 strikers for 2 slots

 

4 wingbacks in Hunt, Palmer, Johnson and James for 2 spots

 

We need 6 centre half's for 3 spots, not 4 centre half's and 2 utility players


Obviously losing 4 centre half’s isn’t going to allow for a successful season let’s be honest,   I understand the inherent fear of everyone getting long term injuries but you have to expect our best players to stay fit if we’re going to have a successful season 

 

There ultimately will be a budget, DM has to use that as best he can and if that means we have to use players like palmer and Galvin to cover for injuries so be it ,  there’s also the loan market to use for covering injuries 

 

I’d take 1 more centre half, but honestly I think 2 more would not be the best use of budget when we’re crying out for strikers in my opinion 

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2 minutes ago, SiJ said:

Think we need at least one more. 

 

Anyone else a bit concerned about the likes of Iorfa trying to play out from the back? 


Darren Moore obviously isn’t,  unfortunately 

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26 minutes ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

Nope, I've been saying it since the beginning of last season

 

We let 6 centre half's go at the end of last season

 

We've brought 3 in

 

It's another catastrophe waiting to happen

 

Unless you don't mind seeing a back 3 of Palmer, Patterson and Johnson again

Short at the back!

 

Then why did we sign players only 3 inches tall?

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1 minute ago, Royal_D said:


Obviously losing 4 centre half’s isn’t going to allow for a successful season let’s be honest,   I understand the inherent fear of everyone getting long term injuries but you have to expect our best players to stay fit if we’re going to have a successful season 

 

There ultimately will be a budget, DM has to use that as best he can and if that means we have to use players like palmer and Galvin to cover for injuries so be it ,  there’s also the loan market to use for covering injuries 

 

I’d take 1 more centre half, but honestly I think 2 more would not be the best use of budget when we’re crying out for strikers in my opinion 

I disagree mate

 

Sod's law is embedded in Wednesday

 

If we had 8 centre half's you can bet your life all 8 would stay fit, if we only have 4 you can bet your life all 4 will get injured

 

I'm not convinced Iorfa will stay fit, that puts us down to the bare bones

 

I hope he Moore brings 2 more in, an experienced centre half, and maybe a youngster from a premiership team

 

I don't mind if they are both loans, it's a long time between the close of the transfer window and it's re-open in January

 

In my opinion playing around 12 games with either or all of the centre half's injured last season, is what lost us an automatic place

 

We can't afford another season in this league, let Patterson go, free up his wages and bring in two more centre halfs

 

A lot of people are hell bent on bringing more strikers in

 

I would build from the back, make sure the defence is solid and has enough numbers

 

In my opinion, in this division we need giants at the back, Palmer, and Hutchinson were regularly beaten in the air last season

 

Other teams played on it, we shored the backline up in January, but by then we were playing catch up

 

Do we really want to risk making the same mistake twice

 

It doesn't matter if we have 12 strikers, if we don't get it right at the back, we may as well give up

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6 minutes ago, Royal_D said:


Darren Moore obviously isn’t,  unfortunately 

It does concern me a bit tbh. 

 

Heneghan looks to be quite comfortable on the ball, but I think the jury is out on a few of the others. 

 

One of the big, big plusses with Hutch was how comfortable he was on the ball. 

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15 minutes ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

I disagree mate

 

Sod's law is embedded in Wednesday

 

If we had 8 centre half's you can bet your life all 8 would stay fit, if we only have 4 you can bet your life all 4 will get injured

 

I'm not convinced Iorfa will stay fit, that puts us down to the bare bones

 

I hope he Moore brings 2 more in, an experienced centre half, and maybe a youngster from a premiership team

 

I don't mind if they are both loans, it's a long time between the close of the transfer window and it's re-open in January

 

In my opinion playing around 12 games with either or all of the centre half's injured last season, is what lost us an automatic place

 

We can't afford another season in this league, let Patterson go, free up his wages and bring in two more centre halfs

 

A lot of people are hell bent on bringing more strikers in

 

I would build from the back, make sure the defence is solid and has enough numbers

 

In my opinion, in this division we need giants at the back, Palmer, and Hutchinson were regularly beaten in the air last season

 

Other teams played on it, we shored the backline up in January, but by then we were playing catch up

 

Do we really want to risk making the same mistake twice

 

It doesn't matter if we have 12 strikers, if we don't get it right at the back, we may as well give up


I get it, but honestly if we have 12 games with loads of first choice players out injured again , we’ll miss out on autos again !   it’s a risk you can only mitigate so much 

 

Signing a Harlee Dean now will be tough imo, if your him and the phone goes now your going to want to know why the club didn’t see you as a first choice signing and fetched Ihiekwe and Heneghan in , I think DM would like 1 more centre half but I feel the rest of his business bar Wilks will be done in the PL loan market later towards deadline day 

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3 hours ago, Royal_D said:


I get it, but honestly if we have 12 games with loads of first choice players out injured again , we’ll miss out on autos again !   it’s a risk you can only mitigate so much 

 

Signing a Harlee Dean now will be tough imo, if your him and the phone goes now your going to want to know why the club didn’t see you as a first choice signing and fetched Ihiekwe and Heneghan in , I think DM would like 1 more centre half but I feel the rest of his business bar Wilks will be done in the PL loan market later towards deadline day 

If Moore brings in two young centre half's in on loan from the premier I'm happy with that

 

I just can't see why you have two players for every position except centre half, when it's that position that cost us last season

 

Why has Moore let Dunkley, and Hutchinson leave if he doesn't intend replacing them, why has he let Brennan go out on loan

 

People will say we've brought 3 centre half's in so we have replaced Dunkley and Hutchinson

 

Fact is we've let 6 centre half's go since the end of last season and only brought 3 in

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5 hours ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

Nope, I've been saying it since the beginning of last season

 

We let 6 centre half's go at the end of last season

 

We've brought 3 in

 

It's another catastrophe waiting to happen

 

Unless you don't mind seeing a back 3 of Palmer, Patterson and Johnson again

Wouldn't mind us signing Patterson, didn't he cost Everton about £10 million? 

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I think our defence is poorer than the team that finished last season, releasing Hutch is a big mistake for me. 

But we still have a minimum of 4 loans we can make and have them in the same matchday squad so CBx2, RWB and Striker/RW dependant on who we sign permanently is still possible 

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We do need at least one more.

 

Injuries have to be taken into account and sadly for Iorfa he's got that moniker (fairly or not) on him now at least until he can put a good run of games together.

 

Heneghan, Famewo and Ihiekwe all look good additions. The understanding between them all only comes with time, sadly that's just how it is. I'm confidant they'll gel though, I don't have an issue with Palmer as a back up if needed but we don't want to be in the situation of needing to play square pegs in round holes for a good chunk of the season which is what we had to do last year.

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