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When Man United were going to boycott the FA Cup


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19 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said:

Think they were spot on though.

Devalued FA Cup and its never been same since.

IIRC Man U went to World Club Championship in Brazil to help with England 2006 World Cup bid which we never got anyway.

 

Backfired on them too. They went out there thinking they were going to be champions of the world, took one point from their first two games, Beckham got sent off and they ended up third in their group and on the early plane home.

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1 hour ago, Beighton Owl 87 said:

Semi Finals being held at Wembley devalues the competition for me. Should've stuck with Old Trafford and Villa Park. 

Agree. 

 

But I'd have semi finals at different neutral venues from a pool of 7 or 8 depending on the teams 

 

MK Dons

Tottenham 

Arsenal

Man Utd

Liverpool

Villa

Newcastle 

 

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11 hours ago, punkskaphil said:

 

Backfired on them too. They went out there thinking they were going to be champions of the world, took one point from their first two games, Beckham got sent off and they ended up third in their group and on the early plane home.

 

Didn't backfire.

 

Ended up with a few weeks rest in Janauray to recharge the batteries.

 

Imagine if one of their rivals got that and won the league.

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14 hours ago, Quickly Kevin said:

 

Didn't backfire.

 

Ended up with a few weeks rest in Janauray to recharge the batteries.

 

Imagine if one of their rivals got that and won the league.

 

They managed to win the Premier League, the FA Cup and the Champions League the previous year, without needing to recharge mid-season.

 

With the mid-season break and miserable CWC failure they only managed to retain their Premier League title and relinquish everything else they had.

 

To me, that's a backfire.

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38 minutes ago, punkskaphil said:

 

They managed to win the Premier League, the FA Cup and the Champions League the previous year, without needing to recharge mid-season.

 

With the mid-season break and miserable CWC failure they only managed to retain their Premier League title and relinquish everything else they had.

 

To me, that's a backfire.

 

They aren't going to win a treble every season.

 

Strolling to another league title is no backfire.

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Decline of the cup's importance may have been a little accelerated by this, but the decline had started before hand and was obviously driven by the switch to a champions League with multiple places for English clubs. In the 1970s and even 80s you'd sooner have won the cup than come second in the league. Plus relegation was less of an existential crisis. 

 

Tracing incentive impacts needn't be particularly complex.

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On 14/07/2022 at 12:25, helmut_rooster said:

Don't think Man U were the ones to blame, it would have come from above, like people say world cup 2006 which they were never gonna give us anyway.

Yeah, my understanding is they were pressured to compete in the Club World Cup thingy by the FA, even it was at the expense of them withdrawing from the FA Cup. 

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12 minutes ago, SiJ said:

Yeah, my understanding is they were pressured to compete in the Club World Cup thingy by the FA, even it was at the expense of them withdrawing from the FA Cup. 

That's how I remember it too. I seem to remember them talking about a bye into the next round or fielding a youth team or something and none of it was doable 

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