TomtheOwl95 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Doctor Duran said: Luongo constantly gave away silly fouls in dangerous areas. This was his biggest weakness. Decent player when on it.. not enough of a goal threat and not fit enough over the course of a season. Vaulks will be an upgrade.. give him time to settle tho like all the new players. Nobody preaches that more than I do I can assure you. My post wasn't a slight on Vaulks, I think he's an excellent signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 People are asking about Smith, Gregory and Windass and how they fit. Is there a chance we'll see Smith and Gregory up top in the 3-5-2 and Windass playing in the 'Bannan' position behind them in the attacking midfield role? I know that will get people grumbling about Bannan playing deeper (alongside Vaulks, I presume). But he played that deeper role under Carlos, Jos and Bruce and was, for the most part, excellent. It was only under Monk and Pulis the deeper role didn't work as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Emerson Thome said: People are asking about Smith, Gregory and Windass and how they fit. Is there a chance we'll see Smith and Gregory up top in the 3-5-2 and Windass playing in the 'Bannan' position behind them in the attacking midfield role? I know that will get people grumbling about Bannan playing deeper (alongside Vaulks, I presume). But he played that deeper role under Carlos, Jos and Bruce and was, for the most part, excellent. It was only under Monk and Pulis the deeper role didn't work as well. I think that one of Gregory or Windass will leave by the close of the window. They will both want as many minutes as possible and Smith has to be first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 6 hours ago, JemmoJemoJemmo said: But we didn’t have the personnel. we now do. Comparing us to Rotherham last season is a more relevant comparison than us in The Championship 3 years ago with completely different players. Having Smith and tapping it about on the edge of our box is a complete waste of time. Without BPF, Hutch and Storey, we don’t have the capabilities to pass it around our own box. Make no mistake, adapting to the players he has chosen to bring in will be Moore’s biggest test. Warne or Ainsworth would love this squad and would expect to get promoted, let’s see if Moore can. I think he will, why pick these players if he’s not going to take a more pragmatic approach? Interesting question, Yes. Being tempted to raid Rotherham for mature players who got them promoted leaves open whether the manager is going to completely change his philosophy to use them in the way they are used to playing. He has strong views on systems and famously helped ruin our chances of staying in the Championship by insisting on immediate changes to the way he wanted it. Remember how he insisted on playing it out from the back, and how he preferred to play one striker when he arrived? Last season he went big on wingers but then decided to play with wing backs without wingers. Hopefully promotion is going to arrive this season by playing to the strengths of the experienced players he has acquired . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Emerson Thome said: People are asking about Smith, Gregory and Windass and how they fit. Is there a chance we'll see Smith and Gregory up top in the 3-5-2 and Windass playing in the 'Bannan' position behind them in the attacking midfield role? I know that will get people grumbling about Bannan playing deeper (alongside Vaulks, I presume). But he played that deeper role under Carlos, Jos and Bruce and was, for the most part, excellent. It was only under Monk and Pulis the deeper role didn't work as well. BB playing too deep led to our best football being played on the halfway line even under CC , but FF’s early brilliance meant it did not matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 16 hours ago, catdog1121 said: I would have liked a bit more youth but given the fact so far they have all been free transfers then I think we have done a great job.. We have a decent keeper, bpf had a few clangers and he cost us points in the first half of the season so to have such a good keeper from the start for me is more important.. Smith is a 20 goal a season striker and for free whats not to likr Smith won’t score 20 goals for us next season. He had a freakish season for Rotherham who’s direct football was ideal for him. Won’t suit Moore’s possession based football. He’s not great with the ball at his feet and doesn’t have the pace to run in behind or the movement to find those little pockets of space like Gregory. Poor man’s Nuhiu and we know how he split the fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, victorturner said: He has strong views on systems and famously helped ruin our chances of staying in the Championship by insisting on immediate changes to the way he wanted it. Remember how he insisted on playing it out from the back, and how he preferred to play one striker when he arrived? Last season he went big on wingers but then decided to play with wing backs without wingers. It's the manager's job to choose a system and make sure that it's implemented. Your choice of words is very irritating "He has strong views on systems... and insists on playing ....". What do you expect a manager to do? Should he just give you a call and follow YOUR advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JemmoJemoJemmo Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: Smith won’t score 20 goals for us next season. He had a freakish season for Rotherham who’s direct football was ideal for him. Won’t suit Moore’s possession based football. He’s not great with the ball at his feet and doesn’t have the pace to run in behind or the movement to find those little pockets of space like Gregory. Poor man’s Nuhiu and we know how he split the fanbase. Unlike Nuhiu, Smith wins headers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 hours ago, victorturner said: Interesting question, Yes. Being tempted to raid Rotherham for mature players who got them promoted leaves open whether the manager is going to completely change his philosophy to use them in the way they are used to playing. He has strong views on systems and famously helped ruin our chances of staying in the Championship by insisting on immediate changes to the way he wanted it. Remember how he insisted on playing it out from the back, and how he preferred to play one striker when he arrived? Last season he went big on wingers but then decided to play with wing backs without wingers. Hopefully promotion is going to arrive this season by playing to the strengths of the experienced players he has acquired . We spent 44 out of 46 weeks that season in the relegation zone and were in 23rd, 10 points behind Derby County when Moore took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog1121 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: Smith won’t score 20 goals for us next season. He had a freakish season for Rotherham who’s direct football was ideal for him. Won’t suit Moore’s possession based football. He’s not great with the ball at his feet and doesn’t have the pace to run in behind or the movement to find those little pockets of space like Gregory. Poor man’s Nuhiu and we know how he split the fanbase. We will see.. He got 25 last season, if you watched us play we often created soooo many chances, we were lacking in the clinical phase.. Smith clearly knows where the back of the net is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 13 hours ago, Emerson Thome said: We spent 44 out of 46 weeks that season in the relegation zone and were in 23rd, 10 points behind Derby County when Moore took over. 13 hours ago, Emerson Thome said: We spent 44 out of 46 weeks that season in the relegation zone and were in 23rd, 10 points behind Derby County when Moore took over. Maybe they are the facts. But Monk’s earlier table places as a functioning manager had been acceptable given starting under the points deduction and in light of what followed with the same players. DM was the new manager actually liked by the owner after a farce when he appointed TP but did not communicate with him then Neil Thompson a stand in for weeks ( neither a proper functioning manager) . It’s a personal view, but I expected the “ new manager” effect to lift us, but DM had a negligible effect while obsessing about one striker and passing it out from the back . And still we would have survived on the last day with a win against Derby, if Dunkley had not been brought back for one match after being out injured for weeks and wrecked the defence by having a nightmare next to two other cb’s. Getting out of League 1 is so difficult that I still regret how we were allowed to slide down here, and now poaching the two best players of Rotherham to try to find the right personnel. Rotherham on current positions is or rather was a better team than us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 16 hours ago, JemmoJemoJemmo said: Unlike Nuhiu, Smith wins headers. Doesn’t mean he’ll score 20 goals next season though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 13 hours ago, catdog1121 said: We will see.. He got 25 last season, if you watched us play we often created soooo many chances, we were lacking in the clinical phase.. Smith clearly knows where the back of the net is.. He won’t score 20 goals for us next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 4 hours ago, victorturner said: It’s a personal view, but I expected the “ new manager” effect to lift us You can only lift a squad that wants to be lifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgyowl Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Over flowing Just being a live and watching the Wednesday is good enough for me never mind what league were in or who we sign, one day I'll not be here to see them play then the glass will be empty...... Up the owls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 My glass is half empty, and some clown has p1ssed in what’s left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 My glass is fine crystal and is filled almost to the brim. If Moore plays Smith & Gregory up front in the first 6 games my glass will overflow like a gushing volcano. If he feks about with different pairings for the first 6 games my glass may crack and it’s contents slowly but surely dribble onto my shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Whittonowl Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Depends. How big is the glass? If it’s a Stein size there’s more of the half than in a pint glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Am I missing something? We have added 5 quality signings to a squad which underachieved last season and still finished fourth despite giving the top 6 a ten point start. Everything suggests we will make even more signings before the season starts and in January if required. We are clearly signing players to take us up and provide a solid foundation for the next assault on the championship. The only weak link I see is the manager but I am very confident he learned a lot from his mistakes last year which showed in both his selections and substitutions in the final 10 or so games (excluding Wycombe). How can anyone’s glass be half full. I can’t see a scenario where we don go up automatically I really can’t. I think the Oxford fan in the other thread has nailed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Totally empty "Another pint of your finest Bar keep" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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