Tommy Crawshaw Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Quickly Kevin said: I know people who went as kids but are rare visitors now. The only guarentee for bigger crowds is success. You stated its guarenteed income for 60 years which is not true. Factor in loss of income from adults using kids tickets. Is it 50 quid for a kids ticket? Nope so you can bring one for less. Keep kids prices low but we need some income from them. I don't see much wrong with our kids prices. Seem reasonable but what do kids get for 'pocket money' these days, I have no idea. God this is showing my age but I can remember with my 50p a week pocket money it was 30p to go on the Kop, 4p bus fare, 5p for a programme and still had some left over for sweets and choccy bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotherham Owl Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: Fair enough I didn’t realise the concession applied to students, I thought that was just for over 65s. Our concession season tickets are still priced at £245 kop, £290 north and £320 south stand though. Their student season is priced at £215 anywhere in the ground You really are trying to put this club down aren't you. £35 for a season ticket for an Under 11 (£1.52 per game) £90 for a season ticket for an Under 17 (£3.91 per game) and you pick up on the one where we are slightly higher than them £30 a season - although we are cheaper per game than them as you get 23 games £10.65 for us and £10.75 for the piggies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Rotherham Owl said: You really are trying to put this club down aren't you. £35 for a season ticket for an Under 11 (£1.52 per game) £90 for a season ticket for an Under 17 (£3.91 per game) and you pick up on the one where we are slightly higher than them £30 a season - although we are cheaper per game than them as you get 23 games £10.65 for us and £10.75 for the piggies Unless I’ve misread the prices of the two clubs we’re more expensive than them in every adult category. And also every junior category apart from in the grandstand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotherham Owl Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: Unless I’ve misread the prices of the two clubs we’re more expensive than them in every adult category. And also every junior category apart from in the grandstand Do you not count the over 65s, disabled and armed forces as adults. If you want to save a couple of quid then go to the lane then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rotherham Owl said: Do you not count the over 65s, disabled and armed forces as adults. If you want to save a couple of quid then go to the lane then. Was waiting for a ‘go to the lane then’ to come back Edited June 24, 2022 by pat blondeau 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, Rotherham Owl said: If you want to save a couple of quid then go to the lane then. Oh dear oh dear "Get T'Lane" is making a comeback This thread is starting to smell all 'Uberfan' innit 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 17 hours ago, TrendOwl said: I am going to post something different - potentially laughable, but it's just an idea for Wednesday or clubs. We all talk about it, when Hillsborough is half full we struggle to make an atmosphere and when it's full, or close to, it's a great place to be. Now I don't think our ticket prices are sky high, but they are still above what I think is fair - cosnidering the league we are in. I personally haven't had a ST for a long time and get to Hillsborough when I can. The ticket prices have just been released and the cheapest ticket for Portsmouth is TWENTY EIGHT POUNDS in league one. My personal opinion is that this should be maxed at £25 for any game in L1. Anyway..... So here's a few ideas to us avoid constantly having 20k empty seats 1) Stop having numerous deadlines for ST 2) Cup tickets if you can't attend a league game (so it doesn't feel like you've lost out) 3) ST discounts for cup 4 ) Quid a kid 1/2 times a season (kop only) 5) More offers for midweek v Burton etc (£20 a stand etc) 6) £25 max!!! 7) Open West lower for every game?? 8 - ticket bundles that are actually really good value 9) A cheap cup season ticket? (£50?) These maybe all laughable to people, but we know what an empty Hillsborough is like.......................... Why Kop only for £1 a kid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggae Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: And there you have it *ticks off the cliche reply list* It's easy this isn't it. Do you think we should stop swearing in football grounds as well? In case the new fans don't like it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 hours ago, pat blondeau said: Yes DC has done a great job making the club sustainable with his high prices. We were only losing £2 million a month in the last accounts You forgot to answer the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 23/06/2022 at 20:55, @owlstalk said: Success on the pitch is a huge driving factor But you could get more regular people and newer people coming more often with an improved matchday experience and facilities But that fan will first and foremost want to watch a winning, positive,Successful team and until that point they won't step through the door to experience facilities etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime Tree Heros Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 This'll be popular... So tin hat and full body armour firmly on... If we want higher attendances, we shouldn't be consulting or debating what to do with STH - why? Because you're already going, many regardless of on pitch success or facilities. That's not to say your loyalty should be taken for granted. To my mind the easiest way to increase attendances is to turn part time fans into STH and to attract newbies to become part time fans. To achieve this I'd look at the following: - Get rid of ticket categories / tiers - too complicated. - Go to a monthly subscription based STH (league matches only) - Include a free adult Saturday ticket (or 2 mid week tickets) for STH's to bring a mate for free each season - Facilities at Hillsborough need a serious upgrade - not important to current STH, but they potentially create a negative impression with newbies - I get better facilities at Tier 8 football than I do at Hillsborough. Having said all that though the sure fire way to increase attendances is on pitch success, playing attractive positive football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 24/06/2022 at 12:41, reggae said: It's easy this isn't it. What is? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Lime Tree Heros said: This'll be popular... So tin hat and full body armour firmly on... If we want higher attendances, we shouldn't be consulting or debating what to do with STH - why? Because you're already going, many regardless of on pitch success or facilities. That's not to say your loyalty should be taken for granted. To my mind the easiest way to increase attendances is to turn part time fans into STH and to attract newbies to become part time fans. To achieve this I'd look at the following: - Get rid of ticket categories / tiers - too complicated. - Go to a monthly subscription based STH (league matches only) - Include a free adult Saturday ticket (or 2 mid week tickets) for STH's to bring a mate for free each season - Facilities at Hillsborough need a serious upgrade - not important to current STH, but they potentially create a negative impression with newbies - I get better facilities at Tier 8 football than I do at Hillsborough. Having said all that though the sure fire way to increase attendances is on pitch success, playing attractive positive football. Turn part timers into st holders? Believe it or not lots of people me included don’t need to go to every game..I go to every away game but very few home games..I simply don’t need to watch Wednesday every satday..it’s nothin to do with pric3 or how the team are doin or the ‘facilites’..and the facilites chestnut is such a red herring...I’ve got fam..work etc..not everybody wants to watch football every single satday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime Tree Heros Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, The coach said: Turn part timers into st holders? Believe it or not lots of people me included don’t need to go to every game..I go to every away game but very few home games..I simply don’t need to watch Wednesday every satday..it’s nothin to do with pric3 or how the team are doin or the ‘facilites’..and the facilites chestnut is such a red herring...I’ve got fam..work etc..not everybody wants to watch football every single satday I totally understand your situation and expect there will be many more like you. But, there will be people that go 2-3 times a season, we should be encouraging them to go 5-6 times and those that go 5-6 times to go 10-12 and so on. I don't believe the facilities are a red herring, a newbie walking into Hillsborough for the first time isn't necessarily a Wednesdayite (yet) maybe someone at university away from home, they have no bond with Wednesday. Understandably they might shop around as to where to spend their hard earned cash, trying different teams / sports, if they do, I expect Hillsborough / Wednesday won't compare well. We need to take our blue and white glasses off when it comes to getting new people to Hillsborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lime Tree Heros said: I totally understand your situation and expect there will be many more like you. But, there will be people that go 2-3 times a season, we should be encouraging them to go 5-6 times and those that go 5-6 times to go 10-12 and so on. I don't believe the facilities are a red herring, a newbie walking into Hillsborough for the first time isn't necessarily a Wednesdayite (yet) maybe someone at university away from home, they have no bond with Wednesday. Understandably they might shop around as to where to spend their hard earned cash, trying different teams / sports, if they do, I expect Hillsborough / Wednesday won't compare well. We need to take our blue and white glasses off when it comes to getting new people to Hillsborough. I have never had a decent "meal" in a football ground the best you can get is poo. Not one person in the history of football have supported a club due to the taste of pies and the colour scheme in the bogs. Or come to that the comfiness of the seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime Tree Heros Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: I have never had a decent "meal" in a football ground the best you can get is poo. Not one person in the history of football have supported a club due to the taste of pies and the colour scheme in the bogs. Or come to that the comfiness of the seats. I wouldn't suggest that taken in isolation any of the items you list would influence you one way or another, but combined they might. Imagine working away from home for a year and deciding to follow a non-league team for your footie fix - two teams in walking distance both the same price and level of football, do you follow the team with a decent clubhouse, drinks availability and range of food and drink. Or the one with facilities served from old shipping containers and 20 year old portaloos? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: I have never had a decent "meal" in a football ground the best you can get is poo. Not one person in the history of football have supported a club due to the taste of pies and the colour scheme in the bogs. Or come to that the comfiness of the seats. Incorrect Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotherham Owl Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, Lime Tree Heros said: But, there will be people that go 2-3 times a season, we should be encouraging them to go 5-6 times and those that go 5-6 times to go 10-12 and so on. I don't believe the facilities are a red herring, a newbie walking into Hillsborough for the first time isn't necessarily a Wednesdayite (yet) maybe someone at university away from home, they have no bond with Wednesday. Understandably they might shop around as to where to spend their hard earned cash, trying different teams / sports, if they do, I expect Hillsborough / Wednesday won't compare well. Point 1 is 100% correct, imo success on the pitch is the easiest way of doing so. Point 2 re university kid, is irrelevant you are trying to capture such a small market and at best we might end up their lifetime second club. It is so much easier to sell to your existing customers than it is new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime Tree Heros Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Rotherham Owl said: Point 1 is 100% correct, imo success on the pitch is the easiest way of doing so. Point 2 re university kid, is irrelevant you are trying to capture such a small market and at best we might end up their lifetime second club. It is so much easier to sell to your existing customers than it is new ones. Totally agree with you about success on the pitch. But respectfully disagree about university kids. I grew up in East Kent, in a non footballing family, my nearest league team were over 50 miles away, so never went to league football as a kid (although I had an ex Wednesday STH as a dad). I know of 5 school friends who had never been to footie until they went to University - all still follow the teams they watched at University. Maybe things have changed with Sky and football on telly, but there are lots of kids out there that get to 18 without ever going to a league match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotherham Owl Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lime Tree Heros said: Totally agree with you about success on the pitch. But respectfully disagree about university kids. I grew up in East Kent, in a non footballing family, my nearest league team were over 50 miles away, so never went to league football as a kid (although I had an ex Wednesday STH as a dad). I know of 5 school friends who had never been to footie until they went to University - all still follow the teams they watched at University. Maybe things have changed with Sky and football on telly, but there are lots of kids out there that get to 18 without ever going to a league match. Follow and go is totally different, this thread is about getting more people in through the turnstiles on a regular basis. The three ones which seem to be running are as per OP easier & cheaper tickets, success on the pitch (which I believe in) and facilities which I think only Owlstalk believes in. Actually I think your wider audience should bump the facilities one in to fourth place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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