Popular Post Siggijonsson Posted June 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2022 When Moore joined I thought we would at least develop a more balanced squad in terms of age. You do need experienced players (Bannan etc) but it needs balancing with the energy and enthusiasm of younger players. Plus as a player ages it is only natural they become more injury prone. However, 1 1/2 years on the average age of our current first team must still one of the oldest in the division. For example, probably our strongest current first team 11 (assuming Moore again goes for the 3-5-2 system) has an average age of of exactly 30 (see below) Gk - Stockdale (36) Cd - Palmer (30) Cd - Heneghan (28) Cd - Iorfa (26) Rwb - Hunt (31) Lwb - Johnson (31) Dm - Luongo (29) - if he stays Cm - Byers (26) Am - Bannan (32) St - Windass (28) St - Gregory (33) I realise the transfer window still has a long way to go but just a look at the recent transfers and gossip. We are linked to Rotherham’s 30 year old striker Smith, whereas today Barnsley sign a good young player like Luca Connell (21) on a free transfer from Celtic. Only one of these players has the potential to develop further so that they are a good championship player if we should go up and/or potentially bring in a good future transfer fee (and it’s not Smith). The current transfer policy does seems very short term(ist), it doesn’t help us financially (as we never get fees for any of our leaving players) and finally It seems to be driven by Moore who prefers older experienced players (like many of his predecessors). A worried Owls fan 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorbatheowl Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 You win nothing with kids a famous manager once said. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 OP makes really valid point for me, we have to start trusting young players at Hillsborugh to move on as a club It’s a concern, there’s absolutely a place to be signing likes of Stockdale when we only have Dawson at the club , Heneghan I think is a steady risk free signing in an area we’re really low on numbers in But I really want to see some young players added , not all that bothered about Michael Smith etc , happily take a chance on a Dom Telford as mentioned in another thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Freshfish Posted June 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2022 I'm sure DM trusts every player he sends out onto the pitch and will give younger players the opportunity to be part of the 1st team squad when he thinks they are ready 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I think he does, but realises that they suffer a little from the weight of expectation at our club. We did ok with the 'old fogies' last season (once we kept them fit). I think we do need to inject some youth into the side. I'd prefer permanent deals, but suspect Moore will hedge our bets with loan signings, so as to not be lumbered with them if they fail...like Brown, Sow for example. As I've said a few times, let's review once our business is done to see what the squad looks like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiregreenowl 80 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Have to be ready and good enough first! Imagine if he played them and we start losing some games. The young players would get hammered by idiots and shouting for managers head! That already happens after odd lose 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post helmut_rooster Posted June 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, zorbatheowl said: You win nothing with kids a famous manager once said. Alan Hanson was a manager? 3 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Neither do I, need two or three season behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Ideally you want a blend of youth and experience, but Moore seems to have gone more for the older player. That said, I saw something a few weeks back about the oldest average aged squads in the division last season, and I think the four oldest squads all finished in the top six, so maybe experience is a boon in this league (although I think Crewe were the next oldest squad but ignore them!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorbatheowl Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, helmut_rooster said: Alan Hanson was a manager? I bow to your superior knowledge. I should have said ex international- 8x 1st division winner- 2x Fa cup winner- 4x League cup winner- 6x Charity Shield winner - FL Super cup winner - 3x European cup winner - UEFA Super cup winner Yes didnt have his coaching badges though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrig Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Bailey Peacock-Farrell 25 Judged by some on here as too young and inexperienced. Not by Darren Moore.... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 We need to produce our own long term obviously , most young prospects cost money and finding free gems is pretty rare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Not what he said when first taking over ,But the pressure is on to deliver this year ,If we go up this year and he got a 3 yr contract who knows . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Nonsense. I’ve recently obtained a secret photo of some of our promising youngsters just getting integrated with the main squad…. It will definitely bring the average age down… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, alanharper said: Ideally you want a blend of youth and experience, but Moore seems to have gone more for the older player. That said, I saw something a few weeks back about the oldest average aged squads in the division last season, and I think the four oldest squads all finished in the top six, so maybe experience is a boon in this league (although I think Crewe were the next oldest squad but ignore them!) Take Stockdale and Akinfenwa out of Wycombes team they may be the youngest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, CircleSeven said: Nonsense. I’ve recently obtained a secret photo of some of our promising youngsters just getting integrated with the main squad…. It will definitely bring the average age down… 3 of those players still look bigger than Bannan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootHoot Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Not sure it's entirely accurate this statement. Moore brought in Adeniran, Storey, BPF, Brown, Corbeanu, Agbontohoma, TJJ and we've used FDB numerous times last season. Some of them didn't work out and some of them were injured and some were signed for the future in Agbontohoma. But there's certainly plenty of evidence to suggest we like a blend of youth and experience in the squad. I'd be very surprised if we don't see some more youth come through the door before the window is closed. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DoesJackHunt Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 It’s because they steal things and tell lies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I'm sure we'd all be patient with young players, I mean it's what we do isn't it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Get a couple of fast skillfull attackers and the rest of the team can be as old as they want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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