Tewkesbury Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 With everyone getting 5 subs next season, how do you think it will affect the transfer market? Will teams above us look to keeping players that we would have seen as targets, or signing players that would have fallen to our level, thus restricting the pool of targets? Older and young players will now get more game time as there's less of a risk with more subs, players who don't really fit are now tactical options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 In this time of growing austerity (Thanks Mrs Thatch!!!) you think that football would be looking to cut the size of their squads. For me it worked quite well with one sub. To much faff nowadays. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsleyowl1996 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Will help us imo if we keep a good squad. Likes of windass Gregory wilks Mendez laing etc . Then central midfield can swap a few around mid game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 It should benefit the larger clubs with bigger squads. In terms of L1 this really should help us. IMO three subs, plus concussion sub if needed, really should be enough for EFL. Ultimately some clubs will use the rule to slow the game down and waste time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsleyowl1996 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said: It should benefit the larger clubs with bigger squads. In terms of L1 this really should help us. IMO three subs, plus concussion sub if needed, really should be enough for EFL. Ultimately some clubs will use the rule to slow the game down and waste time. dont forget it will likely be 3 pauses to make the 5 subs . eg you can’t make one substitute 5 times . would have to be either 5 in one gone or minimum x2 x2 and x1 if that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said: It should benefit the larger clubs with bigger squads. In terms of L1 this really should help us. IMO three subs, plus concussion sub if needed, really should be enough for EFL. Ultimately some clubs will use the rule to slow the game down and waste time. Agree, that's my concern too On principle, I don't think being able to change half of the starting outfield players helps the game. That said, it is happening. I suppose if used correctly, will allow more opportunity to rotate and rest players. Useful in our case with an older squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalAlien Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 To avoid teams using subs to slow the game down, the substituted player/s should have to leave the field at the nearest point. If they fail to do that (e.g. slowly walk to a further point) they should automatically be booked. If they are already on a yellow, they are sent off and the substitution can't take place... It would stop it happening IF the refs stuck to the rules. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 It's an absolute JOKE now football innit It's not just me being an old gimmer moaning about the good old days but actual common sense No football matches ever need each team to be able to substitute FIVE players WTF is happening to this game? 4 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalAlien Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It's an absolute JOKE now football innit It's not just me being an old gimmer moaning about the good old days but actual common sense No football matches ever need each team to be able to substitute FIVE players WTF is happening to this game? Part of me agrees, but then again I think it could potentially add something by allowing further tactical changes during the game. I think it should be trialled for a year or two and a decision made then about it being kept or discarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiltonowl Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Don't agree with it A)It just slows play down B)ref never adds time on C)if a team as a player sent off,theres enough fresh legs to take away the advantage to the other team,kind of D)time wasting subs after 90 minutes should not be allowed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Love how the fans were asked about this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Hate this rule. Gives even more advantage to wealthier clubs with bigger squads and will make for even more time wasting as well. On other hand it will help clubs give more playing time to young players with little or no experience (not that We will see it like that, but anyway...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstyslaces Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: It's an absolute JOKE now football innit It's not just me being an old gimmer moaning about the good old days but actual common sense No football matches ever need each team to be able to substitute FIVE players WTF is happening to this game? IMHO, any new rules in other sports, for example cricket & tennis, do generally work & seem to improve their game, particularly when it comes to utilising technology. But sadly in football this just doesn't seem to be the case. VAR is a farce The worst thing about it is that it takes away the instant euphoria of celebrating a goal, which is such an important factor of the sport. Thank goodness we don't have it in League One (yet). Don't even start me on the "non event" that is the UEFA Nations League! I didn't even realise that the England v. Italy game was on at Molineaux(?) last night. Although I didn't miss anything from what I've heard! This comes from a patriotic Englishman who used to love Internationals. As for the World Cup in Quatar, which starts on November 21st, it's ridiculous! Only my opinion, obviously, but this should never have been allowed. As someone has already mentioned, football fans are never considered in the grand scheme of things.......... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 6 hours ago, @owlstalk said: It's an absolute JOKE now football innit It's not just me being an old gimmer moaning about the good old days but actual common sense No football matches ever need each team to be able to substitute FIVE players WTF is happening to this game? I’m in two minds about it somewhat and just to play devils advocate, what if/when we are really struggling injury wise towards the end of the season and, to avoid further damage, we make subs to save players for the next games. Especially when its Saturday Tuesday Saturday Tuesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DoesJackHunt Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I don’t mind 5 subs but think that 2 should have to be under 23’s and that there should be a maximum of 3 stoppages per team for subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 5 subs is ok but it should be three allowed tactically and the other two can only be used to replace injured players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 5 subs is ridiculous. Destroyed the game already now just making it even more safe for big wealthy clubs. Be like American football. Change half the team in a game... Wake up to the fact FFP 5 subs all keep the elite safe and crushes everyone else. What happens to football being a sport. So now more subs more breaks in play teams tactics will become like chess.... for once can we NOT give in to the elite destroying football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splan80 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I don't mind the notion of 5 subs, as they are not increasing the number on the bench. Every rule is exploited so it will get used to time waste etc. It all comes back to having 65-70 min game which stops at deadballs. Which includes keeper wasting time after falling to ground on routine shot! No more time wasting or ref giving sort change on injury time. Whatever the game does (or doesn't do) sportsmanship etc are things of the past. Every trick and mind game is used to get an edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tewkesbury Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share Posted June 12, 2022 I think that this question has been taken the wrong way. It has nothing to do with 5 subs on the pitch, just about the availability and cost of potential signings taking into account that Champ teams will be keeping or signing some players that they wouldn't otherwise due to having 2 more players to use per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, Tewkesbury said: I think that this question has been taken the wrong way. It has nothing to do with 5 subs on the pitch, just about the availability and cost of potential signings taking into account that Champ teams will be keeping or signing some players that they wouldn't otherwise due to having 2 more players to use per game. I could be way off, but I don't think it'll make much impact, really. Teams will have similar sized squads to what they'd usually carry, but will have the added luxury of another two substitutes than usual. They'll still select those subs from the same pool of players as they would otherwise, I imagine. If we'd had this rule in place last season, do we reckon we'd have drastically altered the makeup of our squad, for example? I'm guessing not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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