Orlando_Trustful Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 18 hours ago, ANDY said: proper and traditional cos they’re bigger than Bury or Macclesfield ? Not at all. I don't want any clubs to go bust. Even the blunts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 9 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: Just been reading about a potential takeover of Birmingham by ex Watford owner Bassini. Sounds a proper dodgy bloke. Was banned for 3 years for misconduct. Surely the EFL won’t sanction it. More than ever before, seems to be some right chancers around trying to buy football clubs. I've no idea how Bassini would ever pass a fit and proper owners test, but I'm sure EFL will find a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Had a thought about the fit and proper persons test as the vultures are circling round Derby trying to buy them for as little as possible… Mike Ashley for example, billionaire, seemingly waiting for the last minute to save a few million quid (a tiny fraction of his wealth) while businesses connected with the club don’t get what they’re owed, HMRC don’t get paid, thousands of fans don’t know if they’ll have a club to support, club staff don’t know if they’re going to have a job in a few weeks time… is that really something a fit and proper person would do, when they’ve (presumably) got the money to get the deal done and put an end to all of this uncertainty? I’d be looking at that and thinking that these people are motivated by their own self interest rather than the club and the people connected to it. Just doesn’t strike me as a very fit and proper way to do things, but then again I’m not a billionaire 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelman Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Personally I think they should be kicked out of the league and get liquidated. They've blatantly taken the urine out of FFP for years and it's had a knock on effect of inflating transfer fees and wages that we've ultimately suffered from. It's gone on for long enough now, time for them to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 There was a change in the law ,so I think Derby are the first case where the HMRC are secured creditors. If Derby think they are going to get away paying pennies in the pound the consensus seems to be that's a misapprehension on thier part. There's been 36 football insolvencies in last 20 odd years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 15 hours ago, Orlando_Trustful said: Not at all. I don't want any clubs to go bust. Even the blunts. but the press/sky/bbc etc didn’t kick up this fuss when they went títs up. Why should shittŷ derby get preferential treatment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhouston Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 21 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: Time for them to get some more points deducted. Don't think they'll get any more points deducted now unless they're still in admin come season start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, smhouston said: Don't think they'll get any more points deducted now unless they're still in admin come season start Or don't pay the wages this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 13/06/2022 at 19:21, Road Runner said: Chris Kirchner has now pulled out of the deal officially. Struggled to get the money across, Reminds me of us in 2008 with Geoff Sheard. This Kirchner guy has wasted money on a Derby County coat. What’s he going to do with that now ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: This Kirchner guy has wasted money on a Derby County coat. What’s he going to do with that now ? Take it back to Sports Direct for a refund /credit note .... Depends if he bought it in store or online..... He needs to have proof of purchase ..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 hours ago, mildatheart67 said: There was a change in the law ,so I think Derby are the first case where the HMRC are secured creditors. If Derby think they are going to get away paying pennies in the pound the consensus seems to be that's a misapprehension on thier part. There's been 36 football insolvencies in last 20 odd years That will knacker Ashley's plans then....sure I read he was looking at repaying something like 8p in the £ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Wonder if we will end up with an odd numbered league if Derby can't start the season. Suspect that's exactly why the EFL are giving them chance after chance. Needs resolving sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSN SYSOP Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: Wonder if we will end up with an odd numbered league if Derby can't start the season. Suspect that's exactly why the EFL are giving them chance after chance. Needs resolving sharpish. Club will end up in Mike Ashley's hands...efl can dress it up as much as they want but we know the outcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, MSN SYSOP said: Club will end up in Mike Ashley's hands...efl can dress it up as much as they want but we know the outcome I think that will be the case and they know it. That's if HMRC aren't secured creditors. He won't want to pay the whole bill. If anything it's the small businesses connected to Derby that I feel sorry for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthndav Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 19 hours ago, beswetherick said: Had a thought about the fit and proper persons test as the vultures are circling round Derby trying to buy them for as little as possible… Mike Ashley for example, billionaire, seemingly waiting for the last minute to save a few million quid (a tiny fraction of his wealth) while businesses connected with the club don’t get what they’re owed, HMRC don’t get paid, thousands of fans don’t know if they’ll have a club to support, club staff don’t know if they’re going to have a job in a few weeks time… is that really something a fit and proper person would do, when they’ve (presumably) got the money to get the deal done and put an end to all of this uncertainty? I’d be looking at that and thinking that these people are motivated by their own self interest rather than the club and the people connected to it. Just doesn’t strike me as a very fit and proper way to do things, but then again I’m not a billionaire That last paragraph: it's what makes them multimillionaires. A lack of morality over anything other than money. I've been thinking about it recently, but I wouldn't wish millionaire status on anyone. It must be 'lonely' having all that cash, and play with your mind so much. Your friends might be there just to leach off you and you'd have to make serious provisions for your estate. Not for me thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhouston Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Maddogbob said: I think that will be the case and they know it. That's if HMRC aren't secured creditors. He won't want to pay the whole bill. If anything it's the small businesses connected to Derby that I feel sorry for. EFL will probably offer to pay off HMRC for him 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhouston Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 13 hours ago, nbupperthongowl said: Or don't pay the wages this month I don't think that'll happen. It'll just put future owners off if points deduction is applied due to that rather than taking a hit financially in the short term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 53 minutes ago, smhouston said: I don't think that'll happen. It'll just put future owners off if points deduction is applied due to that rather than taking a hit financially in the short term It could happen this month if there is insufficient time for the deal to be completed....miss one month's salary run and it's -5 Mind you they don't have to pay roseignor now, so expect Rooney might be the next out, which will reduce the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Anthndav said: That last paragraph: it's what makes them multimillionaires. A lack of morality over anything other than money. I've been thinking about it recently, but I wouldn't wish millionaire status on anyone. It must be 'lonely' having all that cash, and play with your mind so much. Your friends might be there just to leach off you and you'd have to make serious provisions for your estate. Not for me thank you. I think I’d be happy to have a crack at it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Maddogbob said: I think that will be the case and they know it. That's if HMRC aren't secured creditors. He won't want to pay the whole bill. If anything it's the small businesses connected to Derby that I feel sorry for. Yep - small businesses and also the staff on the non-footballing side who won’t know if they have a job during a cost of living crisis are the ones getting shafted the most, just so multimillionaires can try and save themselves a few mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now