@owlstalk Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, GermanBird said: But we have moved on, haven't we? People tend to behave better Did you miss all the incidents last season? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: No you get the authorities to do their job properly so law abided people can enjoy the freedoms and rights they already have I do 100 % agree with you that we cannot punish all football fans for the actions of a minority, but I have to disagree that it's the job of the authorities to deal with the situation. It's nearly impossible to control big crowds (especially the drunken and/or violent) ones. IMO we all have to make sure that it's not acceptable to be too drunk. People will automatically reduce their alcohol consumtion to a level, which is accepted by the society and their peer group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Did you miss all the incidents last season? You can't compare those incidents to the 70th and 80th, can you? I do agree that since the pandemic the people are really acting up badly, but I hope that will calm down again. That's not a football problem IMO, but a general problem of the society, which even emphasizes my point. The more you regulate people (e.g. lockdown, drinking rules, etc), the more they will revolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, GermanBird said: I do 100 % agree with you that we cannot punish all football fans for the actions of a minority, but I have to disagree that it's the job of the authorities to deal with the situation. It's nearly impossible to control big crowds (especially the drunken and/or violent) ones. IMO we all have to make sure that it's not acceptable to be too drunk. People will automatically reduce their alcohol consumtion to a level, which is accepted by the society and their peer group. It is acceptable to be drunk, its unacceptable to be drunk and causing trouble (how do you define drunk). The authorities have all the laws in place to arrest an individual instead they use a blanket tactic and ban anyone from doing something which is perfectly acceptable in other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy W Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Course not, most would go bonkers no control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: It is acceptable to be drunk, its unacceptable to be drunk and causing trouble (how do you define drunk). The authorities have all the laws in place to arrest an individual instead they use a blanket tactic and ban anyone from doing something which is perfectly acceptable in other areas. And how do you think football would have gone if the police hadn't used blanket tactics? You're complaining about the wrong people here The poilce only implement these things because people can't be trusted to behave like humans Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: And how do you think football would have gone if the police hadn't used blanket tactics? You're complaining about the wrong people here The poilce only implement these things because people can't be trusted to behave like humans So lets punish all black men because some cause trouble. We don't do that we arrest the individual! And it would be discriminatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: ..... because people can't be trusted to behave like humans People will behave like humans, if you treat them accordingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, GermanBird said: People will behave like humans, if you treat them accordingly. Why didn't they last time then before the police had to introduce the current way of policing football? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: So lets punish all black men because some cause trouble. We don't do that we arrest the individual! Not even going to debate this point with you Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Not even going to debate this point with you Glad to see you are getting the point we shouldn't discriminate. Everyone should be free to do as they wish until they break the law then they should face the consequences of their actions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Everyone should be free to do as they wish until they break the law then they should face the consequences of their actions. We tried that previously The old school hooligans forced football/the polices hand 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We tried that previously The old school hooligans forced football/the polices hand Sorry that you don't understand. It might be me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RighthOwlon Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Beast of Boulogne said: “Shame, because there’s nothing better than watching sport with a pint, IMO. “ banging a reyt rude woman while watching sport with a pint. Slight adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RighthOwlon Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 I love a pint as much as the next guy. But even with the number of pitch invasions we’ve had in just had, to add booze into the equation definitely not a good idea. Can you even imagine how often people will be getting off their seats to go for a pi55 and another pint? Stands would be mayhem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestBerksOwl Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 11:05, marshy said: Yep, definitely seen Guinness at the 6 nations. Even the fans mingle. Am I regularly attend Premiership Rugby games and love the fact that you can have a beer in your seat and have home and away fans sat next to each other having banter with each other without a hint of trouble. There is zero segregation, no need for it, everyone mixed in together. Most Rugby grounds now sell beer in 2 pint jugs so that you don't have to queue up so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Why didn't they last time then before the police had to introduce the current way of policing football? I don't say that people do not cause trouble. It's just WRONG to treat all football fans as potential criminals!! Football is not the issue. The games are just the place, where you can identify problems you have in society. Treat all people decently, give everybody a chance for a bright future and you won't have problems. Drinking before the game, during the break and after the game does not reduce the amount of alcohol and problems anyway! If I would drink (which I usually don't), i would love to do that DURING the game and not before or after! I can't do that because you believe that I might get drunk and cause trouble??? Or because you believe that I would waste my expensive beer and throw it around? Don't make rules for the majority based on a issue you have with a minority!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, GermanBird said: Don't make rules for the majority based on a issue you have with a minority!! can you name any laws where it's not based on issues with minorities? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Is it the pissed up ' old school hooligans ' that stopped us 'old school ' south standers exiting on to Leppings Lane or is to protect us from the hoollis from Morecambe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanBird Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: can you name any laws where it's not based on issues with minorities? Drink-driving laws - before they were put in place the majority of people did drive after drinking Littering Parking, Speeding How can you justify that - drinking is allowed - drinking at sports events is allowed - there is even a social pressure to drink in certain situations - but it is forbidden to drink while you are on the stand watching football (other sport on the same stand would be ok); but drinking on the concourse is allowed This rule does not solve a problem - it creates problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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