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56 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:



Watch that interview from start to finish

Then ask yourself who you want around this football club


Darren Moore 

Or those idiots who constantly bash him at any and every opportunity they get

He's a class act, a good man, an honest bloke and he's proved he can play exciting attacking football 

I want him at our club

 

 

Excellent post. I’m in the bracket of still not being sure Moore is the man but I agree with most of this, especially the fact he’s a likeable honest man. You want him to be successful. Unlike your Monk’s and Jos’ who just constantly pissed me off!!

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9 hours ago, robbie said:

Just watching his interview now, load of fanny about stats, better end of season, etc etc

 

He's talking as if the last season in division 3 was a triumph

 

Bottom line he failed to get us out of the third division, and with the players he's had we should have romped out, the guy in charge at rovrum, goodness knows what his budget was, at a guess probably a third of Darren Moores

 

No confidence in him, when we won six nil next game he changed three players WTF

 

But he'll be manager start of next season

 

Nowt like rewarding failure

 

 

Thank god there aren't 23 other clubs trying to do the same thing eh

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8 minutes ago, Jim said:

 

You don’t get it, do you? We might be stuck down here for a while? We’ve been stuck in the footballing wilderness for 22 years and counting.

 

We don’t give this manager the time to build the club up from the bottom up then we’ll regret it.

 

Yes, let’s bring in a promotion specialist. We go up, we come back down eventually. 3 f**king times we’ve been in this league this century. If the penny hasn’t dropped with some supporters by now that we have to build a solid base no matter longer how long it takes, we’ll be stuck outside the top flight for 50 years.

 

This manager has a long term plan, the ear and the backing of the Chairman which is particularly crucial at this club but the fans have to hold firm and give him time and support otherwise it’ll be Groundhog Day for the umpteenth time and we can’t afford for that to happen again.

I just don’t think that’s how it works.. when you have the right manager in you just know and the success is usually immediate. Wilder went in at Utd, Season 1 automatic promotion LG1, season 2 top half finish CH, season 3 automatic promotion CH, season 4 top half PL finish. 
 

Bielsa at Leeds - Season 1 nearly got autos then lost in play offs CH, season 2 automatic promotion CH, Season 3 mid table finish PL.

 

Cooper at Forest maybe promotion season 1 on Sunday. Neil at Sunderland comes in and wins promotion immediately from LG1.

 

Managers who are the right fit click straight away. Moore has taken us down then failed to get us promoted. We don’t need to build a sandcastle we need to win football matches and progress up the pyramid.

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Didn’t want him after the relegation, didn’t want him after the first half of last season.

 

however, I’ve changed. We as a club need a culture and to build a way of playing. We csnt keep chopping and changing for short term success, it gets us nowhere.

 

352 is how we’re gonna play now. We’ll bring the players in for it. Let’s get behind the team to get out of this dire league.

 

If we don’t go up, then he goes, but replaced with someone who’s doing the same formation. Most successful clubs pkay the same way from unders to first and have that as a philosophy that for too long we haven’t.

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Good interview, looks determined to build on last season. Really have to set a marker down early and show we are front runners from the off.

 

I hope DM can make that happen. 

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1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:



Watch that interview from start to finish

Then ask yourself who you want around this football club


Darren Moore 

Or those idiots who constantly bash him at any and every opportunity they get

He's a class act, a good man, an honest bloke and he's proved he can play exciting attacking football 

I want him at our club

 

 

Absolutely,.

 

I dont understand the point of negativity, or dredging up flaws from the early part of last season. Yes, we came up short and lost a play off against another very good club, but our second half of the season was exceptional.

 

  • We played some of the best football I've seen in years
  • Scored loads of goals
  • Achieved 85 points (despite crippling injuries and transfer restrictions)
  • Had the best home record in the EFL
  • Came from behind to win games
  • Finally have a footballing identity

 

All under a manager, universally respected in football, clearly building foundations at the club, with a long term plan. I freely admit I had a wobble over Christmas,  despite always liking Moore, but if we were recruiting a manager.... and someone with his reputation, style of play and performance over the last half of the season was linked, many on here would be wetting themself with excitement.  Sometimes I dont think we fully appreciate what we have and some always crave what others have.

 

Speaking personally,  I'm as enthused as I've been for a long time about next season and very happy with Moore.

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11 minutes ago, Kevin Pressmans Pen said:

I just don’t think that’s how it works.. when you have the right manager in you just know and the success is usually immediate. Wilder went in at Utd, Season 1 automatic promotion LG1, season 2 top half finish CH, season 3 automatic promotion CH, season 4 top half PL finish. 
 

Bielsa at Leeds - Season 1 nearly got autos then lost in play offs CH, season 2 automatic promotion CH, Season 3 mid table finish PL.

 

Cooper at Forest maybe promotion season 1 on Sunday. Neil at Sunderland comes in and wins promotion immediately from LG1.

 

Managers who are the right fit click straight away. Moore has taken us down then failed to get us promoted. We don’t need to build a sandcastle we need to win football matches and progress up the pyramid.

 

I take your points but how many times have we had a go at appointing the right type of manager over the last 22 years? 

 

Point I’m trying to make is we give someone the time to get the infrastructure in place then whoever may come in after Moore will be in a better place to push us forward.

 

This period reminds me very much of Big Jack’s time here. It wasn’t plain sailing all the time but he eventually put the building blocks in place to give someone (Wilkinson) the chance to return us to the top flight.

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2 hours ago, Daniele Giovanni said:

We've had loads of these sort of interviews from our various managers over the last 21 years, telling us how it went what needs to be done in the future to improve the club and team, yeah yeah yeah enough already, just put your heads down and get on with it. 


 

I agree that the manager should just get on with the job. We should be told when a player comes to the club or leaves. We should be told the starting line up an hour before kick off. Other than that, shut up.

 

But fans want to know everything that going on at the club, or not going on. And why. Many of us demand interviews, want them more often. If Moore “put his head down and got on with it” he’d be slated on here for being remote, aloof and out of touch. Give him a break ffs.

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27 minutes ago, Screen Door Slams said:

As with most things the "truth" is somewhere down the middle.

 

DM,s detractors overlook what was , for the most part , a cracking 2nd half of the season , his bravery in changing the formation ,  and how hamstrung he was at times with injuries.

 

His fans conveniently overlook the awful start to the season , his selectorial and tactical shortcomings , and worryingly how passive we were when it REALLY mattered.

 

I remain to be convinced , but looking at it dispassionately making a change at this stage probably wouldn`t be the right thing to do , and I think Vulva is right , he deserves the chance to finish what he started , but come November we need to be in or around the top 4.....not down in mid table.

 

Unlike Monk, Pulis, Luhukay etc this guy is likeable and relatable so i hope it works for him...........recruitment is key.........leave it to DM so he can stand or fall by his OWN choices.

I think this is a fantastic post, and one both sides need to look at. It does annoy me the whole rest of the fanbase are stupid as they don't agree with me posts that we see, and unfortunately are even posted after this post.

 

We do need stability, and DM does need to get to grips with tactics etc

 

It doesn't have to be one or the other. I think the thing that gets my goat is that the Moorites dont admit that he made mistakes, it's like talking to my mum about Boris Johnson. All I want is for them is to admit mistakes have been made, and where the antimoorists need to see how stability is needed and hopefully Moore can do that, as there's no guarantee that a change will bring that

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1 minute ago, MBMitchell said:

  I think the thing that gets my goat is that the Moorites dont admit that he made mistakes 



Incorrect, untrue and downright nonsense


ALL Darren Moore fans would admit he's made mistakes
 

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On a side note again, this we needed 15 new players last season arguement, the chances are this season wont be far off, and everyother season after if we rely on loannes for our spine if the squad.

 

We need to sign players that are ours and build a team around them and not loannes

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Just now, @owlstalk said:



Incorrect, untrue and downright nonsense


ALL Darren Moore fans would admit he's made mistakes
 

Is it

 

I must have missed these

 

You Jim German bird and several others talk like he's the second coming

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1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

We'd have way more chance of promotion if his critics shut up for a season than if we changed manager

 

Really, downright nonsense and untrue

 

See we can both do it

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10 minutes ago, MBMitchell said:

Really, downright nonsense and untrue 



In this thread it's been stated clearly and admitted that Moore has made mistakes


Then you come and say that it's never admitted that Moore has made mistakes

In a thread where it's been stated clearly and admitted that Moore has made mistakes

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13 minutes ago, MBMitchell said:

Is it

 

I must have missed these 

 


They're in this thread for starters


Why is it Moore haters always post 'Moore fans never admit he made mistakes' yet those who appreciate Moore all (and always) admit he made mistakes but want to look at the bigger picture instead of just dwelling on mistakes he made?

 

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13 minutes ago, Jim said:

 

I take your points but how many times have we had a go at appointing the right type of manager over the last 22 years? 

 

Point I’m trying to make is we give someone the time to get the infrastructure in place then whoever may come in after Moore will be in a better place to push us forward.

 

This period reminds me very much of Big Jack’s time here. It wasn’t plain sailing all the time but he eventually put the building blocks in place to give someone (Wilkinson) the chance to return us to the top flight.

I know it’s been 22 years for us but a big chunk of those years were non viable. You need resources, the right manager and to recruit players at the right level to be successful. We only really had those things all together from 2015-17 and then in 2018-19 under Bruce. The rest was a waste of time.
 

We had a lost decade before Manderic came in… Jewell, Shreeves, Yorath, Turner, Irvine all were the wrong fit and we gave some of them too much time. Sturrock and Laws were half decent managers but we were never going to get promoted from the Championship with the budget we had.

 

After that Megson got replaced when we were 3rd in league 1, Jones started well then later on it turned out that he wasn’t the right fit was the end of his career and he couldn’t really be bothered. Gray did well, Carlos was a good appointment but didn’t get it over the line. Jos bad, Bruce good but sacked us off for a better offer, Monk bad and Pulis not much time but the wrong fit. 
 

Moore has done enough to warrant starting next season but we need automatic promotion and he must deliver. Moore has the resources to be successful, he has the ability to recruit what’s needed.. the only missing ingredient is a successful manager so he needs to prove he’s that guy, and so far he hasn’t done.

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