The coach Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 hours ago, morganowl said: sadly if we didnt have chansiri we would go bust . league 1 turnover is about 10 million or so . covers nothing . and they aint many billionaires out there , all tyre kickers as mandric once called them. lots of new owners promise the earth very few deliver 10 million should cover everything? How many league 1 clubs have that? It’s dc’s fault he pays all the players far too much..about time we started payin league 1 wages 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootHoot Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 5 hours ago, The coach said: 10 million should cover everything? How many league 1 clubs have that? It’s dc’s fault he pays all the players far too much..about time we started payin league 1 wages That's easier said than done when you retain a section of your championship squad. It's not something you can do in just one year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 8 hours ago, mogbad said: Funny how a successful signing is regarded as a DM signing but an unsuccessful signing is regarded as a Paxo signing. Funny how we are in League 1, skint and not owning our own home. PAXO !!! OUT !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 All that's happened with paxo and chancer being here is us going backwards and the club getting reduced to an indebted failure. What do we have ? seriously ? Even the pitch is shagged Theres not a single succesful company going that would continually hire an " advisor ", who failed and failed and failed. There is no success to talk of... so... who is this person that has helped ruin the club ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evaowl Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Unless the scouts are trusted lieutenants of the manager, I wouldn’t trust their judgement as an owner unless they had a track record elsewhere. The manager carries the can ultimately, so you have to back his judgement - after all, you appoint the manager as the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, quinnssweetshop said: There is no success to talk of... so... who is this person that has helped ruin the club ? The club is only 'ruined' in your head bud. My fourth time here in L1, its part of who we are in recent history unfortunately. Obviously Paxo is a dog whistle for you, but overreacting just makes your posts seem unhinged. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorrallOwl17 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Surely there's enough free transfers in this country to not need to shop abroad. No one expects us to spend 2 million on a player in contract, but from the topics on here so far since the end of the season there is plenty of good players out of contract who wouldn't cost a fee. Kamberi and Sow definitely weren't Moore signings and look how often they got used, fingers crossed we don't go down that slippery slope again of letting someone interfere with signings. DM knows what sort of player he needs, and clearly has a good knowledge of the english game. There's no need to go abroad when so many players have been released already this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 14 hours ago, morganowl said: sadly if we didnt have chansiri we would go bust . league 1 turnover is about 10 million or so . covers nothing . and they aint many billionaires out there , all tyre kickers as mandric once called them. lots of new owners promise the earth very few deliver SWFC get the second highest attendances, with the highest ticket prices in the division. Chansiri fiddles dates which gets us the points deduction, which sends us down, which causes a massive reduction in income. Ergo, Chansiri is our saviour. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 hours ago, HootHoot said: That's easier said than done when you retain a section of your championship squad. It's not something you can do in just one year. Rotherham - Come down, go straight back up and during covid lose £0.7m. Wednesday - Come down, clear out innit, rebuild, need time to gel, only team in the division to have players injured, rebuild again, doesn't go up, lose £20m. Good thing with Wednesday, we have an unlimited supply of reasons why we can't achieve anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootHoot Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Manwë said: Rotherham - Come down, go straight back up and during covid lose £0.7m. Wednesday - Come down, clear out innit, rebuild, need time to gel, only team in the division to have players injured, rebuild again, doesn't go up, lose £20m. Good thing with Wednesday, we have an unlimited supply of reasons why we can't achieve anything. Where have you seen that we lost £20m? The accounts that were published were for the year ending in July 2021. We won't know how much we lost this season until we release the accounts next year afaik. Someone here can correct me if I'm mistaken on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Musttryharder Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 53 minutes ago, WorrallOwl17 said: Surely there's enough free transfers in this country to not need to shop abroad. No one expects us to spend 2 million on a player in contract, but from the topics on here so far since the end of the season there is plenty of good players out of contract who wouldn't cost a fee. Kamberi and Sow definitely weren't Moore signings and look how often they got used, fingers crossed we don't go down that slippery slope again of letting someone interfere with signings. DM knows what sort of player he needs, and clearly has a good knowledge of the english game. There's no need to go abroad when so many players have been released already this summer. I thought I'd seen somewhere that DM as the final say on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Musttryharder said: I thought I'd seen somewhere that DM as the final say on players. "do you want this player with a leg broke in two places or do you want nobody? You have the final say" Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 12 hours ago, mogbad said: Funny how a successful signing is regarded as a DM signing but an unsuccessful signing is regarded as a Paxo signing. We've regressed and dropped so far as a football club since this advisor arrived that any attempt at defence is pointless mate. The evidence speaks for itself 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 38 minutes ago, HootHoot said: Where have you seen that we lost £20m? The accounts that were published were for the year ending in July 2021. We won't know how much we lost this season until we release the accounts next year afaik. Someone here can correct me if I'm mistaken on that. The last accounts. Not the latest. Likewise Rotherham, their last accounts, not their latest. Quite simple really. The point I was trying to make was that you said it's "easier said than done" in response to wages coming down from the Championship, yet a much smaller club (also with a Championship squad) managed just fine. In fact, they smashed it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Manwë said: The last accounts. Not the latest. Likewise Rotherham, their last accounts, not their latest. Quite simple really. The point I was trying to make was that you said it's "easier said than done" in response to wages coming down from the Championship, yet a much smaller club (also with a Championship squad) managed just fine. In fact, they smashed it. Rotherham’s highest paid player last season was ladapo on 5k a week..whilst we have to offer players about 3 times the goin rate to play for us..we are never goin to break even..we are aleague 1 outfit..we need to pay league 1 wages 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootHoot Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Manwë said: The last accounts. Not the latest. Likewise Rotherham, their last accounts, not their latest. Quite simple really. The point I was trying to make was that you said it's "easier said than done" in response to wages coming down from the Championship, yet a much smaller club (also with a Championship squad) managed just fine. In fact, they smashed it. Provide a link for your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, HootHoot said: Provide a link for your source? https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-reveal-significant-loss-of-ps25m-but-dejphon-chansiri-remains-committed-for-the-forseeable-future-3678115 https://www.rothbiz.co.uk/2022/04/news-7642-rotherham-united-post-loss.html#:~:text=Losses were £1.2m,m was recorded for 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootHoot Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Manwë said: https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-reveal-significant-loss-of-ps25m-but-dejphon-chansiri-remains-committed-for-the-forseeable-future-3678115 https://www.rothbiz.co.uk/2022/04/news-7642-rotherham-united-post-loss.html#:~:text=Losses were £1.2m,m was recorded for 2019. That was for the season we were both in the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, HootHoot said: Provide a link for your source? Do you not realise clubs release their accounts every year?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, HootHoot said: That was for the season we were both in the Championship. I know! I said their latest accounts, not their last. When both teams were relegated, had to contend with the same global pandemic, one club lost £25m and was relegated, the other lost £0.7m and was relegated. The latter club bounced straight back up and was promoted, the former didn't and will remain in the third-tier for at least another season. "It's not that easy [implying cost] to when you've still got many players from the Championship" or words to that effect. Rotherham say hello. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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