Sefton owl Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 34 minutes ago, Screen Door Slams said: We need a new keeper. Why? I think Dawson has earned another opportunity. Probably on less wages than many. See how he gets on in pre season and if they feel the need to sign someone on loan I’m sure we will. Certainly other parts of the squad that are more urgent to upgrade. Centre backs and strikers for starters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Cameron Dawson back at SWFC now Joe Wildsmith has just been offered a new contract Thoughts? Missed the bit about Wildsmith. Probably would have released him to be honest, he was dreadful the season we got relegated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etchesketch Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, BIG D said: If I was the manager I’d be disappointed that someone of Wildsmiths age is happy to be a backup keeper in League 1. Go and have a career somewhere ffs and play games. For his sake hopefully he doesn't sign. He's only been offered the chance to stay. He may have made his mind up he is leaving regardless of contract offer or not. Must be tempting for a Wednesday fan to have a contract to sign but he is only going to be 2nd or 3rd choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, Pieman said: I think a full year as first choice under Dawsons belt, should mean he’s improved significantly. The question is, does he come back as our number 1. My opinion is we will sell him to Exeter and sign another BPF on loan. Wildsmith is a good enough number 2 for me at present and given his age, he should still be improving. Yes! If the objective is to get out of this league , then we have to have a strong, consistent keeper on loan from the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etchesketch Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, apswfcowl said: Am I right in thinking that by offering JW a new deal, we would be entitled to some compensation if he then went elsewhere as an academy product? Maybe he is too old for that to apply now but do seem to recall this rule from George Hirst for example if he had gone straight to Leicester. Yes I thought that was if the player was Under 24 or maybe 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: Yes Remember how BPF kept us in some games? Can you imagine Wildsmith turning in a performance like his at Pompey? The penalty save at Toytown? Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Just now, @owlstalk said: Both keepers don't have the confidence to play consistently in front of our fans - especially at home My evidence for this? The last couple of years of them playing in goal, in front of our fans, especially at home. dawson hasnt played in front of our fans in the last couple of years .....he's now 2 years older with a full succesful season under his belt so you'd think his confidence would high . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel. Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, swfcGibbo said: Why are we writing Dawson off before even playing? Was thrown into the team in the Championship and naturally had some iffy games (but also some good games). He's since had a really bad injury but battled back and had an outstanding season at Exeter. They are desperate to keep him but can't afford. He is still only 26 so is far from his prime. He's deserved his chance to become our number one after that loan spell and we should give him every opportunity to earn it in pre season. Agree. If he hadn’t played here before and we’d signed a 26 year old from Exeter with 19 clean sheets there would be a positive reaction. My head says he should now have his shot here. But then there’s that other side of things whereby he’s coming in again after another good keeper and any mistake will be jumped on as he will always have his detractors now. It’s whether it can actually work for him here because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest I Love Coffee Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Both nowhere near the standard we need. Wildsmith seems happy being on the bench, he's ok to cover that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 45 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I'm of the opposite persuasion on this I feel Dawson should find a new club where he can dominate and succeed with confidence Wildsmith needs to go find a club where he's got a real shot at playing Both keepers don't have the confidence to play consistently in front of our fans - especially at home My evidence for this? The last couple of years of them playing in goal, in front of our fans, especially at home. Absolutely bang right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootHoot Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: If I was Dawson I'd want to sign for a club where i can be first choice and a success like the season he's had this season If I was Wildsmith I'd want to move on Ideally I'd like us to shift one of them on. Not sure how Hall and Render are progressing but I'd like to think Render should be knocking on the bench any time now. I'm sure someone knowledgeable can update me on them though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Think they’ll both leave, or at least ask to leave in Dawson’s case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Cameron Dawson back at SWFC now Joe Wildsmith has just been offered a new contract Thoughts? Fine by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marro Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Neither good enough and we will be less than 5 games in when the majority are moaning about a Dawson clanger. I think with Dawson it is mental and he would be best for him to leave his home town club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Perhaps reading too much into it, but I feel that we are looking to bring in new first choice keeper and sell Dawson before his contract runs out next season. Guess that is why We offered Wildsmith new deal. Perhaps Moore thought it was too much to find two new first team keepers in single transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avonowl Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Having a good goalkeeper is hugely important and often under appreciated. You only have to look at what a massive influence Henderson had at utd to see that. Vital that we make some good calls on this front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Cameron Dawson back at SWFC now Joe Wildsmith has just been offered a new contract Thoughts? Oh dear..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 I'd like to see dawson have another shot That loan will have done him the good Unfortunately one mistake and the lads confidence would be ripped to shreds with the vile abuse he would get Best he moved on for his own sake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveClark Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, apswfcowl said: Am I right in thinking that by offering JW a new deal, we would be entitled to some compensation if he then went elsewhere as an academy product? Maybe he is too old for that to apply now but do seem to recall this rule from George Hirst for example if he had gone straight to Leicester. Wildsmith is 26, that only applies to under 24 years of age. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 What's Westwood doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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