Guest hirstysfags Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: The bloke who headbutted Sharp is now in prison, his name and picture are in the press, and he may well lose his job. Surely that's enough of a message to anyone considering similar? And it punishes the perpetrator rather than thousands of innocent people. And if they never get caught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Expect a clampdown on this Let's hope fences aren't the answer this time 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Yep, idiots are now upping the ante, pitch invasions now including goading and attacking players. It seems that any goal scored has the potential for a wazzed up , drugged up pratt to run on the pitch . Not sure how this gets sorted, without punishment and restrictions for the club and a majority of fans. Make no mistake, if you go on the pitch you are part of the problem, even if you are doing it 'innocently ' Clubs repeatedly tell fans not to do it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Expect a clampdown on this Let's hope fences aren't the answer this time Fences most certainly not the answer but a way has to be found to stop fans invading the pitch. At the moment it seems to be pretty endemic and some fans think they have a right to run on, it needs stopping and clubs/authorities need to find a resolve. It can't continue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Expect a clampdown on this Let's hope fences aren't the answer this time As someone has already posted , if your fans invade the pitch you lose the game ,that way Everton would have had 40k stewards last night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JemmoJemoJemmo Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, hirstysfags said: And if they never get caught? Exactly. and he was far more likely to have got away with it due to the huge number of fans on the pitch than if he was the only one. He’d have been caught whilst on the pitch. Zero tolerance as far as I’m concerned. Once the threat is carried out a few times, it’ll stop it overnight. You’ll still get the odd idiot but then it’s a lot easier to deal with and apprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963owl Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Asio otus said: Fences most certainly not the answer but a way has to be found to stop fans invading the pitch. At the moment it seems to be pretty endemic and some fans think they have a right to run on, it needs stopping and clubs/authorities need to find a resolve. It can't continue. Dig a moat around the pitch & put crocodiles in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JemmoJemoJemmo Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) In fact if that Forest idiot had been the only one on the pitch Sharp wouldn’t have caught in the first place. He only didn’t see him coming because he was distracted by all the others on the pitch. The ‘innocent’ fans were part of the problem. Edited May 20, 2022 by JemmoJemoJemmo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Pitch invasions at this stage of the season have become commonplace ever since the fences came down. We’ve seen a few at Hillsborough over the years. I don’t necessarily see a problem with it but recent events are going to get scrutinised by the authorities and that’s to be expected. Thing is history has an habit of repeating itself and you could be forgiven if like me you were around in the 1980s and see and hear things happening now that are almost identical to how it was back then. A divisive PM, Jobs/Money issues, Wars. I could go on. I’ve been listening to quite a bit of 80s music and the lyrics are as profound today as to when they were first written and sung. Bananarama’s ‘Rough Justice’ and the Jam’s ‘Who’s the 5 O’Clock Hero’ are good examples. Anyway as back then, things are likely to get worse before they get better? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTLiam Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 10 hours ago, pat blondeau said: And Port Vale. Getting ridiculous this yeah beyond a joke, it's like fans are now trying to out do each other 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, the monk said: As someone has already posted , if your fans invade the pitch you lose the game The fans running onto the pitch and attacking players aren't worried about losing the game in the slightest though Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 One thing you can absolutely guarantee is those running onto the pitch attacking players will cry like babies when caught and arrested And even worse they'll be that cowardly that they won't hold their hands up and say 'yeah I did it' They'll try and find excuses like they'd had too many beers etc etc like the dullard cowards that they are 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanidaho Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 20 hours ago, mildatheart67 said: Judge not messing about with the thug from Nottingham. BBC News - Billy Sharp: Fan jailed for headbutting player at end of match https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-61505835 does anyone else find this a bit hypocritical? "The crown's case is that this is a deliberate and senseless act of violence. It's an assault on an employee, effectively in his place of work." if a player headbutts another player on the pitch, effectively in his place of work, he's shown a brightly coloured bit of paper and told he can't play for a couple of weeks, compared to the punishment this fan got. i am in no way condoning his behaviour, but an assault is an assault. as for pitch invasions, you can't pick and choose which invasions are ok and which aren't, they should all be treat the same way with sanctions on the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of Clubs Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Don’t blame the authorities or EFL on this one if measures are brought in. Blame the % of a fanbase that find it acceptable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, hirstysfags said: And if they never get caught? Then that's the failing of the police. A single man has committed a single crime (note: the charge of him invading the pitch was dropped by the CPS), and the justice system has dealt with him and him alone. He alone has been punished for his actions. The fact that the Forest fan is now doing time shows we have the laws to deal with perpetrators in a quick and swift manner. What could any new law accomplish that isn't currently achievable? We have laws against murder, yet it still happens. Sometimes they are not caught, yet we continue to live as a society freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Manwë said: Then that's the failing of the police. A single man has committed a single crime (note: the charge of him invading the pitch was dropped by the CPS), and the justice system has dealt with him and him alone. He alone has been punished for his actions. The fact that the Forest fan is now doing time shows we have the laws to deal with perpetrators in a quick and swift manner. What could any new law accomplish that isn't currently achievable? We have laws against murder, yet it still happens. Sometimes they are not caught, yet we continue to live as a society freely. Most murders aren't committed in front of 30,000 people, TV cameras and CCTV - not to mention social media filming of the incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanidaho Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 12 hours ago, Rhubarb n Custard said: Yes, technically it's illegal, but in reality its in no one's interest to prosecute. It would be better to say pitch invasions are acceptable but a physical attack on anyone will result in a life ban and a custodial sentence. drink driving is technically illegal. should you only get punished if you cause damage or injure someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth is out there Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 12 hours ago, HIGHERSTATE said: Many Catholic priests and English sports coaches used to love spending some alone time with children. Why change things? In fact bring back prima-nocta...how about eugenics?..mental hospitals being tourist attractions? In my opinion that would lead to (absolute) Bedlam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, duncanidaho said: drink driving is technically illegal. should you only get punished if you cause damage or injure someone? Driving is legal You'd not get punished for driving a car You'd get punished for driving a car illegally whilst under the influence of alcohol Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanidaho Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Driving is legal You'd not get punished for driving a car You'd get punished for driving a car illegally whilst under the influence of alcohol watching football from the stands is legal you don't get punished for watching football there should be punishment for entering the field of play whether under the influence or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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