Athelwulf Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Seems to me the OP and others are gleefully rubbing their hands in anticipation of not getting a win I'm not though, Inspector. I'm just being honest. If you look at things dispassionately then it's a reasonable conclusion. As I wrote, my heart says yes but my head says no. I desperately want us to win, but I fear that Neil's experience will do for us. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 Anyone mental enough to be an active member on here obviously wants us to win Jfc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonowl Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 38 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: aaI'm not though, Inspector. I'm just being honest. If you look at things dispassionately then it's a reasonable conclusion. As I wrote, my heart says yes but my head says no. I desperately want us to win, but I fear that Neil's experience will do for us. Remind me, were they at home? yes Will we be at home tomorrow yes Did they play pretty much as well as they can ? yes. Do you expect us to play better tomorrow yes Will they have anybody better to come into the team tomorrow? no Will we have more options and more strength in depth ? yes Did they create anything, or tear us apart for 44 mins ? no Do you think in 90 mins we will create more than the four chances they created in 90 mins Did they burn more petrol from the tanks than we did ? yes Do you think will our experience can be used to our advantage at home ? Have they been under any pressure ? no Will Baz be fitter after 3 days than on Friday? Bring it on this is far from over. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsdreamer Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 The OP is spot on in his analysis’ but what is done is done. tomorrow we go again. If the team fukk up again we are out,if they turn up we are through to the final 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickswfc Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Teams are allowed an off day, Friday could just have been that, occasion could have got to them, who f*kng knows. It doesn't always have to be a systemic issue I've seen enough this season to say I fully anticipate and expect better tomorrow 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, owlsdreamer said: The OP is spot on in his analysis’ but what is done is done. tomorrow we go again. If the team fukk up again we are out,if they turn up we are through to the final Ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Pathetic.... I might considered as quite a critical person on here...... but we lost 1-0 we are at home and there is no reason we can't win and go to Wembley. Under Moore HD something gets it wrong and even in our best form we have had a weird wobble game. We just had it! SO.... ad long as wr get at them straight away and put them under pressure we can do it. If we had won 1-0 we would have gone in to tomorrow night half hated and void easily have messed it up. We HAVE to go at them. Sitting back was a mistake in the first leg so much but its only one, so now we get a goal back and they will fall apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 44 minutes ago, nethertonowl said: Remind me, were they at home? yes Will we be at home tomorrow yes Did they play pretty much as well as they can ? yes. Do you expect us to play better tomorrow yes Will they have anybody better to come into the team tomorrow? no Will we have more options and more strength in depth ? yes Did they create anything, or tear us apart for 44 mins ? no Do you think in 90 mins we will create more than the four chances they created in 90 mins Did they burn more petrol from the tanks than we did ? yes Do you think will our experience can be used to our advantage at home ? Have they been under any pressure ? no Will Baz be fitter after 3 days than on Friday? Bring it on this is far from over. Fair points, and under certain circumstances the things you say may well bear fruit. What we know about Wednesday is that: (a) we're not great against teams who sit back and shithouse (b) if you can stop Bannan, you can stop Wednesday (c) we're not great at defending corners and free kicks (d) we've always got a mistake in us at the back Being at home isn't the issue as things stand, because Sunderland already lead us and will sit back, defend, shithouse, and stop Bannan. They did play as well as they can on Friday but their approach will be quite different tomorrow because the onus is on us. It'll be us who need to burn the petrol, not them, because we're already losing. They'll attempt to stifle and frustrate us as much as possible, with Neil using his experience and shithousery to full effect, and bide their time until we drop a clanger or concede from a set piece. So what we need is a lucky break early on which will throw Neil's plans into confusion. A goal for us would bring them out and then the things you say would come into their own. Under those circumstances I'd fancy us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Why’s it not moore’s fault he set the team up and we came away with just a one goal deficit We’ll beat Sunderland by more than one goal tomorrow and I’m never wrong about these things (except when I’m wrong about these things) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy W Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Taz said: It’s the players its hard not to feel like it’s over… when our players treated the first leg like an unnecessary effort being positive on social media isn’t going to fix what the players did the only way to sort this is to give the fans a performance to get behind from kick off tomorrow night we were dreadful… didn’t get a corner for 70 minutes, couldn’t keep the ball, never looked like scoring, barely a shot on target…. Nearly conceded another 4… and the goal that gave it away was utterly amateur Sunday league stuff. how positive do you expect us to be it was gash Agree. We will lose the home leg too in my opinion. I have thought ever since we got relegated that we are in L1 long term. I still think that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOFABI Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 My perspective on blaming the players in any situation is that you are blaming the manager. Leaders are responsible for the attitude and of their subordinates if it impacts the objective. I think Moore is a talented manager who lacks experience and I hope we keep him for a long period, but I believe there are no bad teams, only bad leaders. If Hutchinson buggers up and gives away a goal the way he did, Moore has to point the finger at himself to be effective, luckily for us I believe he does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Andy W said: Agree. We will lose the home leg too in my opinion. I have thought ever since we got relegated that we are in L1 long term. I still think that I can see it being a while I think Moore can take us up but he’ll be sacked if we don’t go up this season, or when we’re not top 2 by next November l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 Just now, BOOFABI said: My perspective on blaming the players in any situation is that you are blaming the manager. Leaders are responsible for the attitude and of their subordinates if it impacts the objective. I think Moore is a talented manager who lacks experience and I hope we keep him for a long period, but I believe there are no bad teams, only bad leaders. If Hutchinson buggers up and gives away a goal the way he did, Moore has to point the finger at himself to be effective, luckily for us I believe he does that. Maybe but I’d rather keep moore and replace half the team than vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geörge Whitebread Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 3 hours ago, CircleSeven said: Can’t believe the swear filter ruined my joke! Supposed to be anál-ation. FFS. It enhanced the joke, if anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andy W Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Taz said: I can see it being a while I think Moore can take us up but he’ll be sacked if we don’t go up this season, or when we’re not top 2 by next November l I would stick with him, he isn't great but he isn't terrible And who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 The "Negativity" is simply bred out of 2 decades of disappointment. Folk look at it as "Negativity", when all it is, is simply a defense mechanism to stave off more of the same. Look at the Portsmouth game "1-0 Pompey and its inevitably..................... Hirst that scored it" A self fulfilling prophecy that folks actually laid bets on Why? Because once you convince yourself its gonna happen, and it does" It dilutes your disappointment cos..you KNEW it would happen Its a rut thats hard to get out of and in 60 years of following the club, I can only remember a couple of seasons when I went to Hillsborough when I , myself have been out of this rut "Score in a minute, we're gonna score in a minute" Echoed around Hillsborough at times in 90's, ....and we did It takes some dragging back So when you slate someone for being "Negative",,He or She might simply be looking after themselves..So take a minute 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOFABI Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Taz said: Maybe but I’d rather keep moore and replace half the team than vice versa Absolutely I agree, in fact that is what happened in pre season. The manager is responsible for the performances of the players, that's not to say the manager should be removed or punished for each player's mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF TAZ Posted May 8, 2022 Author Share Posted May 8, 2022 Can’t blame moore for hutch giving away that chance and that’s what changed that whole game the fans could then smell blood and now we’ve got a right task the morrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Taz said: Can’t blame moore for hutch giving away that chance and that’s what changed that whole game the fans could then smell blood and now we’ve got a right task the morrow It actually isn't Taz, I'm not blaming Moore, but Wednesday were timid first half Moores tactics? Yea probably one bad pass off being decent, but we showed nothing first 45 Can't afford that tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Taz said: It’s the players its hard not to feel like it’s over… when our players treated the first leg like an unnecessary effort being positive on social media isn’t going to fix what the players did the only way to sort this is to give the fans a performance to get behind from kick off tomorrow night we were dreadful… didn’t get a corner for 70 minutes, couldn’t keep the ball, never looked like scoring, barely a shot on target…. Nearly conceded another 4… and the goal that gave it away was utterly amateur Sunday league stuff. how positive do you expect us to be it was gash Sorry all just come across this post, I reckon this has got to be potentially the best back tracking post ever !! #uto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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