@owlstalk Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, latemodelchild said: Probably cos he didn't sign a contract with us and went to leicesters foreign puppet club so we didn't receive any money for him after years of development meaning we not only missed out on his services but on any cash we would have been due. I reckon that's why. Chansiri could have stopped that happening at any time Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted May 1, 2022 Author Share Posted May 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, Pulcinella said: * not saying he’s not got potential, but there’s a lot of development needed in the lad, and at 23 you’d hope he was further along than he is. 23 is the new 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted May 1, 2022 Author Share Posted May 1, 2022 People are confusing ‘him being a handful’ with him running with the ball and eventually having it taken off him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 17 hours ago, Doctor Duran said: Looked decent today and was a threat. I'd sign him for next season him and Gregory would be an interesting pairing. Yeah he looked good. Thought he lacked physicality but made up for that with speed and movement. Good positioning, movement, speed and finishing. Can hit a ball as well. It’s such a shame what happened because he left at a time he would have probably been getting starts. The pause in his time here has affected his development and he is probably a couple of years behind where he would have been. I don’t blame him - it was six and two threes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy85 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Beauchief Owl said: Apparently on 11k per week but Leicester will be footing part of wages. One year left on contract so either LCFC will want him signing a new deal before going out on loan again or may consider selling him. I suspect they'll extend his contract after his recent performances before going on loan to a Championship club. Yeah can could see him in champ but then he may want that guaranteed first team football which he’ll get in L1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, BIG D said: People are confusing ‘him being a handful’ with him running with the ball and eventually having it taken off him. He had some good shots on goal that had to be turned away by BPF and came real close to scoring more goals - especially second half Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FoxOwl12 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 He has a distinct lack of pace, which could hold him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Players develop at different rates as we know. Anyone who has followed Toney’s career will know it was the second loan at Scunthorpe when he was 22 that things started to click for him, then Peterborough snapped him up (as they always do) and the rest is history. If I was advising Hirst I would tell him to join a EFL club permanently this summer with the intent to be their main striker. Be it Portsmouth who want him back, or Peterborough who will no doubt sign the next promising young players as usual 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 29 minutes ago, FoxOwl12 said: He has a distinct lack of pace, which could hold him back. I didn’t think he lacked pace at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jack the Hat said: I didn’t think he lacked pace at all No and a lack of pace didn’t hinder Sheringham’s career anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie melua Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: Players develop at different rates as we know. Anyone who has followed Toney’s career will know it was the second loan at Scunthorpe when he was 22 that things started to click for him, then Peterborough snapped him up (as they always do) and the rest is history. If I was advising Hirst I would tell him to join a EFL club permanently this summer with the intent to be their main striker. Be it Portsmouth who want him back, or Peterborough who will no doubt sign the next promising young players as usual He needs to go to Peterbrough for a few years. Great club for him to get his development back on track. A season in this division with Peterborough will do him the world of good. You could tell there was a bit more confidence in his play as he looked a far better player than he did at Fratton Park in the 0-0 draw. The 2 chances he had, one he scored and the other was a comfortable save in the end. However, I did think we dealt with him comfortably for most of the game and championship defences are much better than league one defences League one is a decent level for him to continue his development. Weren't Rotherham in league one as well when we were going to loan him there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Chansiri could have stopped that happening at any time How? He can't force a player to sign a contract. By all accounts GH wanted a bigger contract despite being offered a decent one. I do think if he had stayed that he would be further long in his progression. The Belgium escapade stalled his career. In my humble opinion. Thought he looked a good player seemed to have a good turn of speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963owl Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Chansiri could have stopped that happening at any time But he priced himself out of that happening. I’ve got nothing against him,I hope his career goes well for him except when he plays us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: No and a lack of pace didn’t hinder Sheringham’s career anyway. Thierry Henry once said that he wasn’t that fast but he looked it because he set off first . If you have good movement you appear fast because you have a couple of yards start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Thought he looked a good striker for this level with the potential to do well in the league above. Would be surprised if he ever made it to the PL mind. Was also surprised he didn't celebrate even more than he did, from Pompey's point of view perhaps he ought to have gone the whole hog and cup his ears to the kop etc. to try and get the home crowd and players to really lose the plot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickly Kevin Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 3 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: 23 years of age, can shoot with both feet, quick, strong, tall, hits the target, good movement, can get the ball out of his feet quickly. Literally has all the attributes to be a top striker. Not saying he will go on to be a world beater, but those attributes will mean someone in the Championship will take a punt on him next season. 23 years old, 13 goals. He’s a talent. Another season in League One would be better for him to see if he can prove himself again over a full season. I think he has the potential for 20 plus goals if he starts every week. If he goes to Championship and ends up with occasional starts and ends up with 4 goals it won't develop him. And a good season in League One next year gets him a top half Championship team year after possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 2 hours ago, latemodelchild said: Probably cos he didn't sign a contract with us and went to leicesters foreign puppet club so we didn't receive any money for him after years of development meaning we not only missed out on his services but on any cash we would have been due. I reckon that's why. But nobody on here actually knows what he was offered and how the meetings went they just speculate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 A year with no football will have set his development back. The Belgium escapade won't have helped. Often playing left side in 4-2-3-1 in a second rate league. Look how long its taken Berahino to get 'English league match sharp'. He'll make a decent career for himself, of that I have no doubt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Agreed. He looked sharp yesterday. He’ll be, at least, a decent championship striker in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1984 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Never made a first team game for us so I don’t really care … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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