TodwickOwl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 I’m one of Gregory’s biggest fans - his reading of the game today was excellent and he runs the channels unbelievably for a bloke nearly in his mid 30’s. But, when we went on our best spell this year - he didn’t feature, who led the line and did that job - Paterson and Kamberi - alongside Windass and Sow. Arguably, you could say what you want about Paterson and him being a donkey - but we got results, same goes for Kamberi - but he worked and worked up top and chased down lost causes all day, enabling mistakes to be made and our midfield to collect and sweep up. The Gregory / Berahino partnership still needs another go, continuing with NML up top is mental. But if this one doesn’t pay off, then both Paterson and Kamberi deserve a shot at the role Gregory is doing right now - the results don’t lie, they are effective at a job nobody really gets the plaudits for - if they have a goal scorer next to them and our current midfield, the goals came and I’m sure would come again. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Daz has decided NML will be partnering Gregory. I'm sorry but it's true. Oh, and due to the above, we'll finish 7th. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 That won’t be a popular view but you are right. I never understood the “we need Gregory back”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 Just now, BRADDO said: Daz has decided NML will be partnering Gregory. I'm sorry but it's true. Oh, and due to the above, we'll finish 7th. Could possibly cost him his job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 minute ago, TodwickOwl said: Could possibly cost him his job I agree mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 Just now, Holmowl said: That won’t be a popular view but you are right. I never understood the “we need Gregory back”. It won’t be, but Kamberi is the most agile out the lot when it comes to pressing up top and has the best engine - everything else, is questionable, but we’ve got enough quality around him to do the job. We’ve got Gregory back and binned them both off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Gregory is a key starter, the foil for his skill set is Berahino or Kamberi NML is not Shame our manager doesn’t seem to have eye balls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owly Mowly Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Gregory was excellent today. Has to be Berahino alongside him- it made a huge difference when he came on at 60 minutes. For 1 thing his movement is great and it also allows Johnson to play his best football without NML stood on his toes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 FYI - these are the results we’ve had since he first went off with injury - the ones in red, obviously wasn’t in the squad. We lost once in eight games. Once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: FYI - these are the results we’ve had since he first went off with injury - the ones in red, obviously wasn’t in the squad. We lost once in eight games. Once. Weird argument. Against Lincoln he came on as a sub when we were already 2-1 down with 20 mins to go. The first game he started since injury he was instrumental in a 6-0 win, actually one of the best CF performances I've seen from a Wednesday player in years to be honest, which drew praise from the opposing manager, and that's with Berahino getting a hat trick! Our most comprehensive win and performance of the season. Our manager then had a tremendous brain wave to bench him for the next match that we subsequently drew (after taking him off half way through the second half vs Camrbridge, which would make sense if you were looking to play him in the next game). The Gillingham game was another terrible team performance where we were fortunate not to lose He started the Cheltenham game and got the critical second goal that tipped the game in our favour, the winning goal. Against Wimbledon he got the winner at the death. This was after NML was finally thrown out wide with Paterson coming on up front. Today he actually had a very good game, but was again isolated by NML going AWOL out wide. Gregory and Johnson came alive when NML went off and Berahino came on. Dropping Gregory would be counter productive and completely bizarre, which to be honest is the blueprint for a Moore decision. Edited April 9, 2022 by Owls2k 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Nah, you need Gregory up top to hold the ball up and bring others into play. He's also just scored two pivotal goals in our last few home games, which the OP seems to have forgotten about. I agree that he's never going to be massively prolific, but partner him up with the right person (Berahino) and I think you'd have a handy duo for this level. NML is a good player, but he's more of an instinctive finisher than he is a natural goalscorer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorbatheowl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 NML is played up front based purely on his speed.. As a good an asset as it is its not working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, zorbatheowl said: NML is played up front based purely on his speed.. As a good an asset as it is its not working. He's not a striker. Remember earlier in the season where he had a one on one against Rotherham and fooked it? Has missed some absolute sitters. Gets into the positions, but hasn't got the finishing ability of a Berahino. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 So how do you explain the best form in our season when he never played up top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: So how do you explain the best form in our season when he never played up top? Correlation doesn't imply causation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Correlation doesn't imply causation. He fell out the side and we went on our best run. We beat the best team currently in the league with Pato and Kamberi up top - with the same midfield as today. We then played Rotherham and lost with NML up top There isn’t too many other variations as to why we went on that run, but we consistently played with one of them up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: He fell out the side and we went on our best run. We beat the best team currently in the league with Pato and Kamberi up top - with the same midfield as today. We then played Rotherham and lost with NML up top There isn’t too many other variations as to why we went on that run, but we consistently played with one of them up top. This is football - there are countless variables which might influence a result. As I say, correlation doesn't imply causation. What have you seen in Paterson and Kamberi's games which makes you think they're better centre forwards then Gregory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, TodwickOwl said: So how do you explain the best form in our season when he never played up top? Was that also when we had some fit CB’s? And also when Luongo, Byers and Bannan started playing together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, S72 Owl said: Was that also when we had some fit CB’s? And also when Luongo, Byers and Bannan started playing together? But those CBs and midfield trio are still there, so why have performance and points dropped off since Gregory came back? I think it’s all about partnerships. I don’t think any of us would really sit Gregory on the bench, but equally very few of us would continue with the Gregory-NML pairing. It patently doesn’t work. We’ve 450 minutes of the league season to go. If we pair any two from three of Gregory, Berahino and Paterson I believe we’ll make the play-offs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsleyowl1996 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 It’s not Gregory’s fault Moore plays NML alongside him . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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