wellbeaten-the-owl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: They had 4 key players missing and we still couldn't beat them I don't believe Moore is a good motivator Said it day dot when DM appointment announced that was a risky appointment. There are big parallels between how we are going this year to job he did at WBA. On face of it he's Managing a side in 5th with a shout at play offs, but with squad / support he's had from chairman it's a below standard performance to be out of automatic race. DM apologists will point to injuries he's had, but in contrary it took until we had so many out for him to finally pick a settled side...when changes stopped performances and results improved. Too late to sack him, but if we don't go up he should be replaced. Edited April 9, 2022 by wellbeaten-the-owl 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Dear o dear. Can’t believe what I’m reading here. On the cusp of play offs which we can easily win. Get behind the team FFS. Deal with whatever happens after. Jeez. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, yeadonowl said: As long as you are happy with the 15* goals conceded from nest pieces with a centre half as coach then that’s all good if he can’t see there is a serious problem with set pieces and sort it out the. He needs to go The defence we have should be more than capable of defending set pieces. The players have to look to themselves sometimes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, andrew1974 said: Sack him? Don’t be silly. the only thing that annoys me is that Moore, Smith, Thompson and Jacobs were all defenders. That should be our strong point not our main weakness actually, NML up front annoys me when Berahino is on the bench To sum up we beat a side 6-0, our front two looked great together, one got a hat trick, then in following games they've not started a game together, and we're playing a winger up front who can't finish. Top notch management right there. Football is a simple game overcomplicated by idiots. Sums up root of our issues. Edited April 9, 2022 by wellbeaten-the-owl 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleford Owl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Silly twohat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, edwinowl said: Dear o dear. Can’t believe what I’m reading here. On the cusp of play offs which we can easily win. Get behind the team FFS. Deal with whatever happens after. Jeez. Absolutely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, duncanidaho said: With all the naysayers on here and obviously the original post being ludicrous, that went by me. Apologies It's my fault. Sarcasm doesn't come across well in text, and it's the lowest form of wit too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, markg said: He’s doing a decent job. Best home record for ages. Highest we’ve been in our first season in league one. Usually we struggle massively when we’ve gone down. I’d the strikers did their job today then we would all be happy This best home form record we are playing in the third division. we have a budget bigger than any other team in the league. we have a first squad of 30+ players to pick from and many players that are the standard of the league above. i would be expecting us to play well at home when many other teams get no where near the support we do and are putting a team together on a shoe string. what has cost us the top 2 this season is: poor tactics, the wrong players in the wrong roles, not playing a formation that fits the players we have available. the injuries to a few key players, poor game management, poor substitutions often to late or the wrong players. My big worry with Darren Moore if you ask him after 41 games whats your strongest first 11 he does not know. but today what lost the game was simple, we keep playing players out of position. what cost us today was 1 goal from 21 shots. Of those 21 shot only 3 were by strikers Berahino x1 and Gregory x2. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 minute ago, room0035 said: This best home form record we are playing in the third division. we have a budget bigger than any other team in the league. we have a first squad of 30+ players to pick from and many players that are the standard of the league above. i would be expecting us to play well at home when many other teams get no where near the support we do and are putting a team together on a shoe string. what has cost us the top 2 this season is: poor tactics, the wrong players in the wrong roles, not playing a formation that fits the players we have available. the injuries to a few key players, poor game management, poor substitutions often to late or the wrong players. My big worry with Darren Moore if you ask him after 41 games whats your strongest first 11 he does not know. but today what lost the game was simple, we keep playing players out of position. what cost us today was 1 goal from 21 shots. Of those 21 shot only 3 were by strikers Berahino x1 and Gregory x2. No chance. Hardly any of them are of the standard of the league above. It's why they are playing in this division. If we go up, we'll see that. We say that each time we end up in this league too We have the biggest budget and usually one of the biggest followings every time we are in this league. But usually in the first season, we are nowhere near challenge for promotion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelman Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, room0035 said: This best home form record we are playing in the third division. we have a budget bigger than any other team in the league. we have a first squad of 30+ players to pick from and many players that are the standard of the league above. i would be expecting us to play well at home when many other teams get no where near the support we do and are putting a team together on a shoe string. what has cost us the top 2 this season is: poor tactics, the wrong players in the wrong roles, not playing a formation that fits the players we have available. the injuries to a few key players, poor game management, poor substitutions often to late or the wrong players. My big worry with Darren Moore if you ask him after 41 games whats your strongest first 11 he does not know. but today what lost the game was simple, we keep playing players out of position. what cost us today was 1 goal from 21 shots. Of those 21 shot only 3 were by strikers Berahino x1 and Gregory x2. Bang on. Unfortunately the “experts” on here don’t realise it. Most of them think Carlos the Clown is the greatest manager we’ve ever had. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 You know you are onto a winner when you've got room0035 as one of your only supporters. That's like getting the backing of Trigger. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 38 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: To sum up we beat a side 6-0, our front two looked great together, one got a hat trick, then in following games they've not started a game together, and we're playing a winger up front who can't finish. Top notch management right there. Football is a simple game overcomplicated by idiots. Sums up root of our issues. The use of the word idiot is unnecessary and harsh and unfortunately devalues your argument. Otherwise your point perfectly highlights the nagging doubts that persist about DMs tactics and decision making. He seems to lack clarity of thought. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) Look - we get to the end of the season and then we reassess. If we miss out on the play offs, then I think it is perfectly valid for there to be a serious debate about whether Moore is kept on or not. Let's hope we don't have to have that discussion. I feel like there is a half decent coach in there, who is good at recruitment, man management etc., but perhaps there are just one too many shortcomings when it gets down to the crunch. But then I could say similar about some of our senior players in terms of how they are quite talented, but have a knack of stacking it when it matters. Still - fingers crossed we put today's setback behind us and kick on. Do or die isn't it. Edited April 9, 2022 by SiJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, SiJ said: Look - we get to the end of the season and then we reassess. If we miss out on the play offs, then I think it is perfectly valid for there to be a serious debate about whether Moore is kept on or not. Let's hope we don't have to have that discussion. I feel like there is a half decent coach in there, who is good at recruitment, man management etc., but perhaps there are just one too many shortcomings when it gets down to the crunch. But then I could say similar about some of our senior players in terms of how they are quite talented, but have a knack of stacking it when it matters. Still - fingers crossed we put today's setback behind us and kick on. Do or die isn't it. Dude. Talking my language. We need to Get behind the team now FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Archers Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Steelman said: I’m sick of this, last minute capitulations, bizarre team selections, clueless tactics, woeful set-pieces at either end. He’s just got to go now while we’ve still got a chance. We should get Roy Keane in and offer him a massive bonus to get us over the line. We need someone who can pick football teams that actually win games and see them out when we’re in front. We also need someone to motivate these players because I’ve no doubt they’ve got the ability. Moore’s post match interview said it all. Went on about how we’d left our shooting boots in Sheffield. No, you left them on the bench (Berahino) you stupid tŵat. Why oh why has he not consistently played Berahino with Gregory. He scores a hat trick then doesn’t get a look in. Football is all about partnerships and he hasn’t given our best front two a chance, why? Chopping and changing sides, bizarre substitutions, refusing to change the way we play during games even when it’s clearly not working, ie when we come up against the so-called “low block”. Lump it föòkin long Darren and get some big lads in box to cause mayhem. Why do we never leave anyone on the half way line when the opposition have a corner? We let them pack our area because we give them nothing else to worry about we should be leaving Bannan, Berahino up so it at least means they have to keep two or three back, but we don’t! Why not? Our defending from set pieces is woeful so why not try something else. He’s supposed to be a defender yet here we are conceding the same soft goals that we did at the start of the season with 5 games left to play. It’s inexcusable. And the least said about our corners and free kicks, the better. Moore will not get us out of this division. He’s assembled a superb squad for nothing and he should be commended for that. It’s a fantastic achievement. But he hasn’t got a clue how to use them. Time to go and get someone in who can before it’s too late. Either way, whichever division we’re in next season, I don’t want him here as manager. Best flounce of the day, excellent stuff mate. some of the pre match flounce’s today have been embarrassingly weak and feeble, you have restored my faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggowl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Steelman said: We should get Roy Keane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Steelman said: I’m sick of this, last minute capitulations, bizarre team selections, clueless tactics, woeful set-pieces at either end. He’s just got to go now while we’ve still got a chance. We should get Roy Keane in and offer him a massive bonus to get us over the line. We need someone who can pick football teams that actually win games and see them out when we’re in front. We also need someone to motivate these players because I’ve no doubt they’ve got the ability. Moore’s post match interview said it all. Went on about how we’d left our shooting boots in Sheffield. No, you left them on the bench (Berahino) you stupid tŵat. Why oh why has he not consistently played Berahino with Gregory. He scores a hat trick then doesn’t get a look in. Football is all about partnerships and he hasn’t given our best front two a chance, why? Chopping and changing sides, bizarre substitutions, refusing to change the way we play during games even when it’s clearly not working, ie when we come up against the so-called “low block”. Lump it föòkin long Darren and get some big lads in box to cause mayhem. Why do we never leave anyone on the half way line when the opposition have a corner? We let them pack our area because we give them nothing else to worry about we should be leaving Bannan, Berahino up so it at least means they have to keep two or three back, but we don’t! Why not? Our defending from set pieces is woeful so why not try something else. He’s supposed to be a defender yet here we are conceding the same soft goals that we did at the start of the season with 5 games left to play. It’s inexcusable. And the least said about our corners and free kicks, the better. Moore will not get us out of this division. He’s assembled a superb squad for nothing and he should be commended for that. It’s a fantastic achievement. But he hasn’t got a clue how to use them. Time to go and get someone in who can before it’s too late. Either way, whichever division we’re in next season, I don’t want him here as manager. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Steelman said: I’m sick of this, last minute capitulations, bizarre team selections, clueless tactics, woeful set-pieces at either end. He’s just got to go now while we’ve still got a chance. We should get Roy Keane in and offer him a massive bonus to get us over the line. We need someone who can pick football teams that actually win games and see them out when we’re in front. We also need someone to motivate these players because I’ve no doubt they’ve got the ability. Moore’s post match interview said it all. Went on about how we’d left our shooting boots in Sheffield. No, you left them on the bench (Berahino) you stupid tŵat. Why oh why has he not consistently played Berahino with Gregory. He scores a hat trick then doesn’t get a look in. Football is all about partnerships and he hasn’t given our best front two a chance, why? Chopping and changing sides, bizarre substitutions, refusing to change the way we play during games even when it’s clearly not working, ie when we come up against the so-called “low block”. Lump it föòkin long Darren and get some big lads in box to cause mayhem. Why do we never leave anyone on the half way line when the opposition have a corner? We let them pack our area because we give them nothing else to worry about we should be leaving Bannan, Berahino up so it at least means they have to keep two or three back, but we don’t! Why not? Our defending from set pieces is woeful so why not try something else. He’s supposed to be a defender yet here we are conceding the same soft goals that we did at the start of the season with 5 games left to play. It’s inexcusable. And the least said about our corners and free kicks, the better. Moore will not get us out of this division. He’s assembled a superb squad for nothing and he should be commended for that. It’s a fantastic achievement. But he hasn’t got a clue how to use them. Time to go and get someone in who can before it’s too late. Either way, whichever division we’re in next season, I don’t want him here as manager. 1 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Owlinmad said: Bring Colin out of retirement. Is that this retirement or the 3 before it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: The use of the word idiot is unnecessary and harsh and unfortunately devalues your argument. Otherwise your point perfectly highlights the nagging doubts that persist about DMs tactics and decision making. He seems to lack clarity of thought. It's a quote mate. Ever heard of Bill Shankley? Edited April 9, 2022 by wellbeaten-the-owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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