nevthelodgemoorowl Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 On 09/04/2022 at 18:39, Asio otus said: These people always need identifying and banning from matches. I have had plenty of arguments with young nob heads with flares and been close to being hit by one. If you know people who are throwing missiles, we have a duty to report them, those stood around laughing are colluding in their actions. So did you do your bit ? Submit any photo's to police or did you just hang around until the excitement died down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotherham Owl Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 It is a difficult one, not being the best behaved kid (nor the worst) I dont mind kids (16-25) being a bit daft and I am not offended by flairs. Now a bit older I take my young kids in the home end at away games, mainly because I cant get tickets through not enough points. But also I am unsure what it is truly like. I would like to take the eldest to appreciate the true away atmosphere only an away game can give, but I am unsure whether to beacause what is said on here. Would you take your 14 year old daughter to a Wednesday away game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rotherham Owl said: It is a difficult one, not being the best behaved kid (nor the worst) I dont mind kids (16-25) being a bit daft and I am not offended by flairs. Now a bit older I take my young kids in the home end at away games, mainly because I cant get tickets through not enough points. But also I am unsure what it is truly like. I would like to take the eldest to appreciate the true away atmosphere only an away game can give, but I am unsure whether to beacause what is said on here. Would you take your 14 year old daughter to a Wednesday away game? Seem to be plenty of females who go in the away end from the very young to the very old. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 hours ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: So did you do your bit ? Submit any photo's to police or did you just hang around until the excitement died down. I did not witness anything on Saturday. But i have reported people in the past and taken seat numbers to report individuals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Rotherham Owl said: It is a difficult one, not being the best behaved kid (nor the worst) I dont mind kids (16-25) being a bit daft and I am not offended by flairs. Now a bit older I take my young kids in the home end at away games, mainly because I cant get tickets through not enough points. But also I am unsure what it is truly like. I would like to take the eldest to appreciate the true away atmosphere only an away game can give, but I am unsure whether to beacause what is said on here. Would you take your 14 year old daughter to a Wednesday away game? Took my 14 year old daughter and 12 year old son on Saturday and it was fine. .....just get em some flares so they can join in the fun and take them to the local sweet shop to fill their pockets. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longreach Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Rotherham Owl said: It is a difficult one, not being the best behaved kid (nor the worst) I dont mind kids (16-25) being a bit daft 16 -25 year olds are NOT kids ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotherham Owl Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Seem to be plenty of females who go in the away end from the very young to the very old. Cheers, think I will give it a try. Going to have to be next season now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTLiam Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Rotherham Owl said: It is a difficult one, not being the best behaved kid (nor the worst) I dont mind kids (16-25) being a bit daft and I am not offended by flairs. Now a bit older I take my young kids in the home end at away games, mainly because I cant get tickets through not enough points. But also I am unsure what it is truly like. I would like to take the eldest to appreciate the true away atmosphere only an away game can give, but I am unsure whether to beacause what is said on here. Would you take your 14 year old daughter to a Wednesday away game? Mine's only 7, but at 14 i'll take her for sure. You need experiences growing up instead of sheltering from everything IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Football has always been like this. What has changed is the demographics of a football crowd and perceived levels of entitlement. The relationship between the increase in the number middle class supporters (as working class supporters get priced out of the game), and the number of complaints at football matches, is directly proportional. Middle class liberals dictating how others should speak, and behave, is nothing new, however there are now more of them about, and on the whole, they see themselves as setting the benchmark for all aspects of others' lives. Naturally this only acts as a catalyst for incressed rebellious behaviour, so you could argue the middle class liberal supporter is to blame for the increase in rowdy behaviour at games. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, theowlsman said: Football has always been like this. What has changed is the demographics of a football crowd and perceived levels of entitlement. The relationship between the increase in the number middle class supporters (as working class supporters get priced out of the game), and the number of complaints at football matches, is directly proportional. Middle class liberals dictating how others should speak, and behave, is nothing new, however there are now more of them about, and on the whole, they see themselves as setting the benchmark for all aspects of others' lives. Naturally this only acts as a catalyst for incressed rebellious behaviour, so you could argue the middle class liberal supporter is to blame for the increase in rowdy behaviour at games. And working class supporters can't be offended? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danblakemore Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, theowlsman said: Football has always been like this. But now we have social media to document it for all to see. Not just the 'old days' of recollections in the pub about how "one bloke took on 20 of theirs and won" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, theowlsman said: Football has always been like this. What has changed is the demographics of a football crowd and perceived levels of entitlement. The relationship between the increase in the number middle class supporters (as working class supporters get priced out of the game), and the number of complaints at football matches, is directly proportional. Middle class liberals dictating how others should speak, and behave, is nothing new, however there are now more of them about, and on the whole, they see themselves as setting the benchmark for all aspects of others' lives. Naturally this only acts as a catalyst for incressed rebellious behaviour, so you could argue the middle class liberal supporter is to blame for the increase in rowdy behaviour at games. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Football has allways been like this..thousands of fans descend on a town or city..a few skirmishes kick off...then everybody goes home and forgets about it...it dosnt really matter in the big scheme of things..in fact GMP have said there wer only about 4 arrests..all for public order offences...none for shoplifting by the way..I’m sure they would have took that b4 the game....we move on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bez Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, theowlsman said: Football has always been like this. What has changed is the demographics of a football crowd and perceived levels of entitlement. The relationship between the increase in the number middle class supporters (as working class supporters get priced out of the game), and the number of complaints at football matches, is directly proportional. Middle class liberals dictating how others should speak, and behave, is nothing new, however there are now more of them about, and on the whole, they see themselves as setting the benchmark for all aspects of others' lives. Naturally this only acts as a catalyst for incressed rebellious behaviour, so you could argue the middle class liberal supporter is to blame for the increase in rowdy behaviour at games. Well summed up. I think we should expedite the eradication of the working classes from football. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, The coach said: in fact GMP have said there wer only about 4 arrests..all for public order offences...none for shoplifting by the way Ahhhh man Our fans are letting the club down massively here Those stats are horrific reading Not a single person arrested for nicking a kit-kat from the local shop? COME ON LADS FFS - UP YA GAME 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I would recognise the issue , and instead of trying to squash it I would legalise and formalise the whole thing. basically have a massive its a knockout thing on the pitch from say 12 to 2 which fans who fancy a bit of a tear up can turn up to, put on one of those massive costumes like they used to and have a right go at each other. Bit of tug of war, bit of wellie throwing , dodge ball etc. make a competition out of it with a league . Anyone misbehaving and throwing stuff outside of those two hours just gets banned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, mcmigo said: I would recognise the issue , and instead of trying to squash it I would legalise and formalise the whole thing. basically have a massive its a knockout thing on the pitch from say 12 to 2 which fans who fancy a bit of a tear up can turn up to, put on one of those massive costumes like they used to and have a right go at each other. Bit of tug of war, bit of wellie throwing , dodge ball etc. make a competition out of it with a league . Anyone misbehaving and throwing stuff outside of those two hours just gets banned. Winner gets a tray of Subway Nachos Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post musingowl Posted April 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2022 Doesn't need 16 pages of debate here. My brother nearly got hit by a flare Saturday, could have caused serious injury a few feet to the left. On top of that, they look properly sh^te. There's nobody who will defend football fans to ignorant comments more than me, but Saturday, along with over the course of the season, I'm struggling to articulate an argument. Flares, fighting, shouting in families/ elderly supporters faces, lads getting their cocktail sausages out when there's kids present, racist bile. Too much coke going up the noses of lads with too few brain cells. And before I'm jumped on, yes I'm working class, yes I enjoy a good drink on a matchday, no I don't like a completely sanitised product. I've just got a low tolerance of c***s. Also it's clearly not helping the atmosphere home or away, as it's as flat as I can recall it. 9 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, musingowl said: Doesn't need 16 pages of debate here. My brother nearly got hit by a flare Saturday, could have caused serious injury a few feet to the left. On top of that, they look properly sh^te. There's nobody who will defend football fans to ignorant comments more than me, but Saturday, along with over the course of the season, I'm struggling to articulate an argument. Flares, fighting, shouting in families/ elderly supporters faces, lads getting their cocktail sausages out when there's kids present, racist bile. Too much coke going up the noses of lads with too few brain cells. And before I'm jumped on, yes I'm working class, yes I enjoy a good drink on a matchday, no I don't like a completely sanitised product. I've just got a low tolerance of c***s. Also it's clearly not helping the atmosphere home or away, as it's as flat as I can recall it. Ah come on, give them a break. They're only fighting, throwing flares, exposing themselves in public, and being racist because there are more middle class liberals in the crowd than there used to be. Or summat. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 hours ago, theowlsman said: Football has always been like this. What has changed is the demographics of a football crowd and perceived levels of entitlement. The relationship between the increase in the number middle class supporters (as working class supporters get priced out of the game), and the number of complaints at football matches, is directly proportional. Middle class liberals dictating how others should speak, and behave, is nothing new, however there are now more of them about, and on the whole, they see themselves as setting the benchmark for all aspects of others' lives. Naturally this only acts as a catalyst for incressed rebellious behaviour, so you could argue the middle class liberal supporter is to blame for the increase in rowdy behaviour at games. You could.....but only a complete fukwit would even try 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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