pahowl Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Ian said: Nope….still can’t see 30 seconds or 1 minute Ian is spot on here there are no set time allowances for subs /goals etc. It is down to the referee , who is the sole timekeeper, to decide how much additional time needs adding on at the end of each half under law 7. He communicates this to the 4th official who informs the crowd/players/managers by the display board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Ian said: Nope….still can’t see 30 seconds or 1 minute You're spot on. Teams indulging in time wasting invariably take longer than 30 seconds to complete a substitution. Four minutes ET today did not cover the minutes wasted. Great though that we scored 3 minutes into the extra 4 minutes leaving them only one minute to rescue a point. So funny to see their player running over to grab the ball so that BPF could take the goal kick quickly just afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1961OWL Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 5 hours ago, OwlBiSeeinThi said: All the officials were shyte today. Gregory was getting nothing out of them. I want to see their goal again because I'm convinced it was offside, but that is no excuse for all our players to stop playing and let them score. Hate the timewasting. Glad it backfired for them. Hope the club put an official complaint in. The end. Was sat in line and no way was it offside. Poor defending by Hutch unfortunately. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: You're spot on. Teams indulging in time wasting invariably take longer than 30 seconds to complete a substitution. Four minutes ET today did not cover the minutes wasted. Great though that we scored 3 minutes into the extra 4 minutes leaving them only one minute to rescue a point. So funny to see their player running over to grab the ball so that BPF could take the goal kick quickly just afterwards. To clarify, there is indeed no specific time allowance and indeed if it were 30 seconds it wouldn't have been enough given Wimbledon's go slow tactics. Five sub stoppages ( one double so time saved there admittedly) plus the other time wasting equated to more than the 4 minutes. In the end it worked against Wimbledon. Seeing their players beating the ground in frustration was an absolute delight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nickelarse Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, 1961OWL said: Was sat in line and no way was it offside. Poor defending by Hutch unfortunately. Agreed , bad defending. Happened in the same area last Saturday when May scored.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, pahowl said: Yes all referees in the EPL/EFL will have an observer at the game . What are they seeing then,how do some refs keep getting selected for games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Rogers Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 If we were winning going into extra time, I'd have put good money on them putting up 6 or 7 minutes added on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakefieldowl Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Littleowl74 said: A last minute winner is always sweeter against time wasters. I laughed out loud lots watching us take a full minute to take that goal kick, after we scored. Their players going mad, ours laughing at them and taking the michael even more, by finally deciding to go long. You reap what you sow, you time wasting two hats. Suck it up losers I thought the ref was ok today. He let things go better than most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 9 hours ago, pahowl said: Ian is spot on here there are no set time allowances for subs /goals etc. It is down to the referee , who is the sole timekeeper, to decide how much additional time needs adding on at the end of each half under law 7. He communicates this to the 4th official who informs the crowd/players/managers by the display board It's about time they did put something in the rules then such as each sub minimum of 30 seconds, each goal 30 or 1 minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 8 hours ago, malcolm said: What are they seeing then,how do some refs keep getting selected for games. Think they should publish the observations would help us all understand the reasons and decision that are made...they have a tough job, may help us understand it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnsleyowl1996 Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 A quick google shows the average sub is 30 seconds . as pointed out before 30 seconds x6 = 3 minutes . Their keeper went down injured for at least a minute and that’s at least . every single throw was delayed , to the point the ref spoke to their captain (Woodward ) plenty of minutes wasted every goal kick / kick out of the keepers . Again talking plenty of minds wasted . Overall you are looking at least 6 minutes that should have been added on by whoever the ref / link / 4th official or Barry in the stands . I would go as far as 7-8 mins being more realistic for yesterday’s game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahowl Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Harrysgame said: Think they should publish the observations would help us all understand the reasons and decision that are made...they have a tough job, may help us understand it better. Would you want your performance review at work given to all your workmates never mind your customers? Not defending his performance yesterday, but how many decisions do you think he got right and which decisions did he get wrong in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 11 hours ago, malcolm said: True,but most fans know blatant time wasting when they see it. No matter who decides to defend a poor referee, fans know when they’ve seen a sh ite one. I saw one yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahowl Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Barnsleyowl1996 said: A quick google shows the average sub is 30 seconds . as pointed out before 30 seconds x6 = 3 minutes . Their keeper went down injured for at least a minute and that’s at least . every single throw was delayed , to the point the ref spoke to their captain (Woodward ) plenty of minutes wasted every goal kick / kick out of the keepers . Again talking plenty of minds wasted . Overall you are looking at least 6 minutes that should have been added on by whoever the ref / link / 4th official or Barry in the stands . I would go as far as 7-8 mins being more realistic for yesterday’s game Not sure what the quick google source is . but the ref should add on the exact time from a goal to the kick off, or for a substitution. Yes he should have looked to caution a player/keeper for delaying the restart of play at throws in's /goal kicks and look to apply the six second rule, however this is not helped when a player stands in front of the keeper , preventing him from kicking it. Don't know if you recall how Westwood used to time waste by laying on the ball and then taking time to kick it, or at goal kicks moving it from one side of the area to the other, time wasting is acceptable when its your side doing it, but not the other! I expected 6 minutes yesterday but justice was done in the end , it gave them less time to try to equalise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahowl Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Out of interest does anyone know how many minutes on average the ball is in play in a 90 minute game? Have a guess before clicking this Time ball is in play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, pahowl said: Would you want your performance review at work given to all your workmates never mind your customers? Not defending his performance yesterday, but how many decisions do you think he got right and which decisions did he get wrong in your opinion? I think the point is we all make mistakes. You can perhaps accept a ref is going to miss the odd foul, the Lino the odd tight offside. But it’s the lack of action against sustained repeated cheating that winds me up. The systematic time wasting tactics that are obviously coached into players and used by managers week in week out. We all know what they are, we see them every week. Solution - make the captain responsible. Warn him once, warn him twice, book him for the third time. We have a 4th official doing nowt most of the match, set a given time for certain stoppages like goal kicks, throw-ins and subs and give the 4th official a bl**ding egg timer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birstall Owl Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, pahowl said: Out of interest does anyone know how many minutes on average the ball is in play in a 90 minute game? Have a guess before clicking this Time ball is in play I think it's less than 60 and that's probably for someone like City, mid 50's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm an Essex Owl Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, pahowl said: Out of interest does anyone know how many minutes on average the ball is in play in a 90 minute game? Have a guess before clicking this Time ball is in play I saw this stat before and it is a bit of an eye opener. Maybe there is something to be said for two 30 minute halves where the clock stops immediately the ball goes dead? The ref did his best to spoil that game yesterday. Utterly hopeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgyowl Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Absolutely dogsheet officiating today those clowns shouldn't be anywhere near a football pitch, one of the worst performances by officials I've seen this season bar one when we played Gillingham he was utter sheeeite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Musttryharder Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Im in no way defending the standard of referring in this divison, but unlike the Premier they have the major decisions made for them and if not, they have the benefit of replays. You dont hear too much from Premiership teams slating Premiershipship refs. The game is so much quicker, slicker and players are now athletes not just those a bit above average non league like they were a few years back. The passage of play is far quicker again down to the level of fitness and standard of pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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