Do Sheffield Wednesday F.C. get bullied too much in midfield?

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Do Sheffield Wednesday F.C. get bullied too much in midfield?

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[Guest Andy W]

Yes

[marshy]

Yes. Especially when players are in our faces. If Baz, Byres and Mas aren’t given time to play then we can be easily nullified. If they are, then it can be curtains for the opposing side. 
 

Need a Mo Diame type in there who was not only strong as an ox, but could play.  Those types cost unless you unearth a gem with good scouting.

[unkastav]

Only for the last ten seasons

[punkyhorrors]

12 minutes ago, marshy said:

Yes. Especially when players are in our faces. If Baz, Byres and Mas aren’t given time to play then we can be easily nullified. If they are, then it can be curtains for the opposing side. 
 

Need a Mo Diame type in there who was not only strong as an ox, but could play.  Those types cost unless you unearth a gem with good scouting.

We been missing someone to just sit and boss that midfield think we got the technical players but not the big unit to sit in and not get bounced off 

[punkyhorrors]

6 minutes ago, unkastav said:

Only for the last ten seasons

Pretty much I think we noticed it more the last 3 season but put a set technical gift players in the leauge one with out a proper unit to help out at times we really struggled 

[Buck Rogers]

Semedo could probably still do that job.
Looks after himself, that lad.

[S36 OWL]

Every team needs a hatchet man in midfield. Sadly we ain't got one. 

[Holmowl]

No.

 

We dominate in midfield almost every game.

 

Our issues are elsewhere.

[unkastav]

6 minutes ago, Holmowl said:

No.

 

We dominate in midfield almost every game.

 

Our issues are elsewhere.

But would we go up without someone doing that job? No

[Nero]

37 minutes ago, Holmowl said:

No.

 

We dominate in midfield almost every game.

 

Our issues are elsewhere.

Absolutely this.

 

The teams that manage to compete against us nulify our midfield by avoiding it when they have the ball.

 

And when we have it they stop us playing through them (through the  thirds) by playing a low press/playing defensively. Basically letting us have the ball.

 

If a team comes out to 'bully' our midfield we pass it around them. The Wigan home game being the classic example.

 

What would a Somedo type have added at Gillingham when we had 70% possession?

 

Its simply lazy thinking sorry.

 

[OasisOwl72]

Of course we do. 

 

On a slight tangent this is where the likes of myself and others are on the whole Bannan thing. Of course we all like him. Good player, stays fit and always gives 100%. Is he value for money, should we cater our entire game around him and is suited to League One? If we go up it's worked but if not it's no and a big failure. Sadly I suspect the latter. 

 

Promotion side of 2012 had a back four mainly of centre halfs in Buxton, Batth, Jones, Liera, Reda with Semedo sat in front of that. Add to that JOC who would put a foot in, Lines wasn't as lightweight as Bannan and we had pace, power n quality down sides with JJ, Marshall, Treacey and Antonio. Add likes of COG and Madine to that we certainly didn't get bullied by anyone and good at set pieces at both ends. Unlike current lot. 

 

So, yes we do and not just in midfield. 

 

[Joe Sunburn]

Call Atdhe back from wherever he is now. That big fella will clean house. 

[punkyhorrors]

1 hour ago, Nero said:

Absolutely this.

 

The teams that manage to compete against us nulify our midfield by avoiding it when they have the ball.

 

And when we have it they stop us playing through them (through the  thirds) by playing a low press/playing defensively. Basically letting us have the ball.

 

If a team comes out to 'bully' our midfield we pass it around them. The Wigan home game being the classic example.

 

What would a Somedo type have added at Gillingham when we had 70% possession?

 

Its simply lazy thinking sorry.

 

Ok my point view did not get across as well as I liked then as I notice when when we go against phiscal teams or in our face we struggle a lot It. I take this into consideration next time I do a video like this

[punkyhorrors]

Also did not know how to title this video my bad 

[Pinky]

Yes. Been happening for years as has been pointed out in here and in other places time and time again with no change.

[Nero]

32 minutes ago, punkyhorrors said:

Ok my point view did not get across as well as I liked then as I notice when when we go against phiscal teams or in our face we struggle a lot It. I take this into consideration next time I do a video like this

I might be wrong though!

All about opinions 

[sherlyegg]

Bullying nope..not good enough is the reason.

There are only 4 decentish sides in the entire league. And two or three okayish.

That's why all our 'main' competitors keep winning because the rest are very average to very poor. And that's why the points total for 6th place will be much higher than the norm.

 

And here we are struggling for 6th place because either the players are not good enough or more likely our leader ain't good enough.

All in my humble opinion of course.

 

 

[Kew Owl]

Football is a contact sport and IMHO we need more physicality in midfield if we’re ever going to get promoted out of this division.

 

Opponents know they can bully us and they will continue to do so whilst we remain a soft touch - and, TBH, can you blame them ?

[leftpeg]

2 hours ago, Nero said:

Absolutely this.

 

The teams that manage to compete against us nulify our midfield by avoiding it when they have the ball.

 

And when we have it they stop us playing through them (through the  thirds) by playing a low press/playing defensively. Basically letting us have the ball.

 

If a team comes out to 'bully' our midfield we pass it around them. The Wigan home game being the classic example.

 

What would a Somedo type have added at Gillingham when we had 70% possession?

 

Its simply lazy thinking sorry.

 

 

100% plus when Moore takes off attacking players for defensive ones to shore up we inevitably drop back and invite other teams onto which we then cant cope with (leading to so many late goals against us).  It reminds me of watching a much poorer version of the mid 2000's England, get a goal and then gradually drop further and further back, as a result the manager takes off a suddenly nullified creative threat to bring on some "Steel" and we drop even further back and before long we are on the back foot and conceeding late. 

 

No our midfield doesnt get bullied, it simply lacks the depth to replace key performers in the system we want and until the turn of the year we had very few outlets for them to work with too, mean while they were always half afraid to commit to attacks because the makeshift defence we had would be left too exposed.

 

Cambridge and a couple of other games aside, our problem has been not killing teams off, getting a goal and then slowing things down rather than doubling down.

 

That and players in attacking positions not being given runs of games when their confidence is up, attacking players thrive on confidence and the more they pull off the more outrageous stuff they try...  it is the one thing I will critique Moore for.  Its not like all the squad rotation is preventing inuries anyway.