Abramovich to sell Chelsea.

[latemodelchild]

Yeah there'll be some reight shady deals done here. Sell it to his mate for 3 billion, make sure the net proceeds are a few hundred grand and donate that. Go to ground a bit then reappear if there's owt left to reappear for after captain vvankstain has finished bombing innocent civilians. 

[REDOWL]

A lengthy statement from Abramovich tonight regarding his  intentions. Alan Shearer pointed out that there was not one one word of condemnation of Russia's actions whatsoever in the statement.

[WalthamOwl]

3 billion. fizz me. 

[A47Owl]

2 hours ago, Birley Owl 1867 said:

No not necessarily.

 

The club owes him £1.1bn. All the money came from his pocket and was given to Chelsea in terms of loans. Obviously he never expected to see those loans paid back.

He perhaps didn't but how does that fit with ffp. 

[SiJ]

1 hour ago, REDOWL said:

A lengthy statement from Abramovich tonight regarding his  intentions. Alan Shearer pointed out that there was not one one word of condemnation of Russia's actions whatsoever in the statement.

I've read that he considers Putin to be a father like figure. 

 

At the top of Russia it's a bunch of crooks who've accumulated absurd amounts of money/power since the fall of the Soviet Union and Uncle Vlad is the one in charge. 

[Birley Owl 1867]

1 hour ago, REDOWL said:

A lengthy statement from Abramovich tonight regarding his  intentions. Alan Shearer pointed out that there was not one one word of condemnation of Russia's actions whatsoever in the statement.

Personally think that is a little unfair. Who knows, he might be supportive of the war, but given his comments about donating money to Ukraine I doubt it.

 

What people don't seem to understand is that Russia is not a country where you can be openly critical and live to tell the tale. Remember, Roman is a highly respected figure in Russia with links to Putin. Him bring negative will damage Putin's rep but will leave Roman open to retaliation. There is a good chance his family will be harmed if he comes out and criticises the war. The KGB still operate worldwide.

 

We are blessed in the country with being able to speak freely without fear of punishment or retribution. Please remember many other countries, including Russia, don't have this.

 

At the end of the day, his families safety is more important to him than pleasing people by condeming the war online, as it would be to everyone in that situation. 

 

Or he couldn't care less and thinks the war is just.

[SiJ]

2 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said:

Personally think that is a little unfair. Who knows, he might be supportive of the war, but given his comments about donating money to Ukraine I doubt it.

 

What people don't seem to understand is that Russia is not a country where you can be openly critical and live to tell the tale. Remember, Roman is a highly respected figure in Russia with links to Putin. Him bring negative will damage Putin's rep but will leave Roman open to retaliation. There is a good chance his family will be harmed if he comes out and criticises the war. The KGB still operate worldwide.

 

We are blessed in the country with being able to speak freely without fear of punishment or retribution. Please remember many other countries, including Russia, don't have this.

 

At the end of the day, his families safety is more important to him than pleasing people by condeming the war online, as it would be to everyone in that situation. 

 

Or he couldn't care less and thinks the war is just.

You do realise that our current government is trying to pretty much eliminate the right to protest, yeah? 

 

The same government largely backed by Russians and allies of the Kremlin. 

 

Yes, the United Kingdom is a much a better place to live than Russia, but Russian money, power and influence is all over the British system at present. 

[Birley Owl 1867]

3 minutes ago, SiJ said:

You do realise that our current government is trying to pretty much eliminate the right to protest, yeah? 

 

The same government largely backed by Russians and allies of the Kremlin. 

 

Yes, the United Kingdom is a much a better place to live than Russia, but Russian money, power and influence is all over the British system at present. 

And if you protest in Russia you get arrested and savagely beaten in a Labour camps. Bit of perspective needed here please.

 

If Russian influence was over the system we wouldn't be sanctioning them.

 

My reply was in a comment at Abramovich's lack of rebuttal of the war. Its not as easy for a Russian than it is for us sat over here in England with little threat of being taken from our homes and beaten.

[SiJ]

Just now, Birley Owl 1867 said:

And if you protest in Russia you get arrested and savagely beaten in a Labour camps. Bit of perspective needed here please.

 

If Russian influence was over the system we wouldn't be sanctioning them.

 

My reply was in a comment at Abramovich's lack of rebuttal of the war. Its not as easy for a Russian than it is for us sat over here in England with little threat of being taken from our homes and beaten.

Seriously? 

 

Our current government is looking to shut down protests on account of them being too loud. They were also going to give the police powers to stop and search people on the basis they think they were going to be involved in a protest. 

 

As for your comments about a lack of Russian influence...

 

You do realise that a few years ago the government essentially buried a report on Russian involvement/collusion in UK politics, right? 

 

You do realise tha the largest donors to the Conservative party are Russian, friends of the Kremlin, right? 

 

That another name for London is "Londongrad" because it's been awash with Russian money lfor decades, right? 

 

That the likes of Mr Banks, Mr Farage and so forth (architects of Brexit) all have Russian connections and backers, right? 

 

Oh, and those "sanctions" will not kick in for around 18 months, giving most of the oligarchs and co plenty of time to move their assets elsewhere. 

[SiJ]

Honestly, I don't think we have even skimmed the surface as to the level of Russian influence, collusion and corruption present in this country. 

 

Who knows, perhaps the alarm bells should have been ringing in 2003 when a Russian billionaire bought one of our most famous football clubs?

 

 

[REDOWL]

9 hours ago, Birley Owl 1867 said:

Personally think that is a little unfair. Who knows, he might be supportive of the war, but given his comments about donating money to Ukraine I doubt it.

 

What people don't seem to understand is that Russia is not a country where you can be openly critical and live to tell the tale. Remember, Roman is a highly respected figure in Russia with links to Putin. Him bring negative will damage Putin's rep but will leave Roman open to retaliation. There is a good chance his family will be harmed if he comes out and criticises the war. The KGB still operate worldwide.

 

We are blessed in the country with being able to speak freely without fear of punishment or retribution. Please remember many other countries, including Russia, don't have this.

 

At the end of the day, his families safety is more important to him than pleasing people by condeming the war online, as it would be to everyone in that situation. 

 

Or he couldn't care less and thinks the war is just. 

Morning mate, whatever the views are  of those with influence it's a horrific situation that is leaving so many people without hope and living in fear. It may be wishful thinking for us to believe that the words of anyone will make any difference to what is happening but we can only hope that, somewhere, wiser heads will prevail.

The tragedy unfolding is beyond belief and those with little or no influence (or voice) look to those who have in the hope it may make some difference.

 

 

[Birley Owl 1867]

10 hours ago, SiJ said:

Seriously? 

 

Our current government is looking to shut down protests on account of them being too loud. They were also going to give the police powers to stop and search people on the basis they think they were going to be involved in a protest. 

 

As for your comments about a lack of Russian influence...

 

You do realise that a few years ago the government essentially buried a report on Russian involvement/collusion in UK politics, right? 

 

You do realise tha the largest donors to the Conservative party are Russian, friends of the Kremlin, right? 

 

That another name for London is "Londongrad" because it's been awash with Russian money lfor decades, right? 

 

That the likes of Mr Banks, Mr Farage and so forth (architects of Brexit) all have Russian connections and backers, right? 

 

Oh, and those "sanctions" will not kick in for around 18 months, giving most of the oligarchs and co plenty of time to move their assets elsewhere. 

Those limits are against violent protests such as the ones seen over BLM and Brexit recently for eg. People are allowed to be detained freely if the police think you are attending a football game if you didn't know. Police powers aren't fair. But they will hardly use them.

 

As I said, there isn't a threat of talking crap about our govt and then next day you are having your head caved in in a labour camp. Perspective is needed please, Russians can't just openly denounce Putin unless they are lunatics. Which was my original point before you took it off track.

 

Those sanctions kicked in already. The Russian Federation is on it's ass.

 

It is very naive of you to not expect the biggest country in the world doesn't have an influence on political issues abroad btw. Them and the US have dominated the political world together since 1945. It doesn't just stop over night. And frankly no one cared until 24 February really did they.

 

Also strangely no one seemed to care or know what an oligarch was until 2 weeks ago. Funny how fickle the world is sometimes.

[Birley Owl 1867]

1 hour ago, REDOWL said:

Morning mate, whatever the views are  of those with influence it's a horrific situation that is leaving so many people without hope and living in fear. It may be wishful thinking for us to believe that the words of anyone will make any difference to what is happening but we can only hope that, somewhere, wiser heads will prevail.

The tragedy unfolding is beyond belief and those with little or no influence (or voice) look to those who have in the hope it may make some difference.

 

 

100%. Unfortunately it isn't easy for someone like Abramovich to denounce his government whether he'd like to or not.

[owlsdreamer]

17 hours ago, Pughies Jockstrap said:

Just seen that Abramovich has announced he is to sell Chelsea. I accept  that he is not the only one  but I cant help feeling that if and when he does football will be that  little bit cleaner without him.

should he be allowed to sidestep sanctions and walk away with the money?

[owlsdreamer]

15 hours ago, latemodelchild said:

Yeah there'll be some reight shady deals done here. Sell it to his mate for 3 billion, make sure the net proceeds are a few hundred grand and donate that. Go to ground a bit then reappear if there's owt left to reappear for after captain vvankstain has finished bombing innocent civilians. 

this is why they need to act now against Abranovic

take all his assets off him here.

 

[Birley Owl 1867]

37 minutes ago, owlsdreamer said:

should he be allowed to sidestep sanctions and walk away with the money?

He is donating all proceeds from the sale to Ukrainian charities.

[g-owls]

Will Britain be sanctioning itself for its involvement in supplying Saudi Arabia millions of pounds worth of weapons so it can continue to attack Yemen?

 

No matter who it is, whether it be Britain, Saudi Arabia, Russia, The US, France or Germany, those who have the power and influence are all peeing in the same pot and eating from the same trough.

We are just the pawns as the clowns play their little games.

 

I’ll end with Pink Floyd “The lunatic is on the grass” 

 

[Luke]

So roman has been condemned by Alan Shearer but roll back 4 months ago and he was dancing in the street with his geordie mates ,celebrating the fact his club had just been bought by people who come from a country that behead people,stone woman to death and kill journalists 

 

Bit pot kettle black Alan 

[Gob_Bluth]

28 minutes ago, Luke said:

So roman has been condemned by Alan Shearer but roll back 4 months ago and he was dancing in the street with his geordie mates ,celebrating the fact his club had just been bought by people who come from a country that behead people,stone woman to death and kill journalists 

 

Bit pot kettle black Alan 

 

It completely proves that sports washing works.

 

When these regimes buy clubs, they aren't just buying the clubs, they're buying a complete legion of fans who'll defend the owners against any criticism from rival fans at all.

[matthefish2002]

11 minutes ago, Gob_Bluth said:

 

It completely proves that sports washing works.

 

When these regimes buy clubs, they aren't just buying the clubs, they're buying a complete legion of fans who'll defend the owners against any criticism from rival fans at all.

 

Think the fit and proper person test is useless but its hardly surprising when the Russian Billionaires can run rings runs Governments never mind the EFL and FA.