DoorDoor Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr. Tom said: Communism has nothing to do with oppression or fascism, it’s just hardline socialism. The problem is that communist regimes have historically been imposed as a front for several fascistic dictators who themselves were anything but socialists. They only used it as a way to control and repress their own populations further, which has nothing whatsoever to do with communist ideals. Freedom of speech doesn’t necessarily mean having to tolerate the intolerant, you can still have freedom of expression with exceptions for speech/material that seeks to limit others’ freedoms. "every commie regime in the world wasn't really communism" really the next one will be better, lenin, stalin, pol pot, castro, mao, chavez, kim jong, the next one will be better, super cereal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Great thread, but what a bizarre story that one of our captains can’t access the ground 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, DoorDoor said: no, free speech is is the freedom to speak your mind, no matter how "offensive", it is to ppl, ("cough" "midget gems") and since when is not taking an experimental drug a negative to the wider public, silencing people you don't agree with is tantamount to fascism/communism, they're the ones who want to silence ppls free speech I think one of the nurses summed it up best when she said that antivaxxers show such resistance to taking "an experimental drug" when they are healthy, until they turn up at A&E and they are pleading with the doctors and nurses to give them all kinds of drugs and treatments, despite having no idea of what they are or how they work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Bigger Guns said: Well said. Having a jab doesn’t stop you getting covid nor does it stop you passing it on. You get jabbed to protect yourself, not others. If someone chooses not to get jabbed that’s up to them and like you say really not anyone else’s business what someone chooses to do re health It lowers the chances of you passing it on. People not getting jabbed will mean that the virus will still be in the population for longer than it needs to be. Selfish thinking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalAlien Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Emerson Thome said: I think one of the nurses summed it up best when she said that antivaxxers show such resistance to taking "an experimental drug" when they are healthy, until they turn up at A&E and they are pleading with the doctors and nurses to give them all kinds of drugs and treatments, despite having no idea of what they are or how they work. Surely the objection is to being forced to have an 'experimental drug' injected when the person doesn't agree they are at risk. Obviously, if they have become so ill that they require emergency treatment, they no longer feel the same way and at that point are prepared to risk any potential adverse effects from the drug in an attempt to recover. I don't think that's so difficult to understand is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmontonowl Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Ps this thread is nuts After your OP, I bet you didn't think it'd cover just about every social and political topic the world has ever seen. One of your better efforts, sir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger Guns Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: It lowers the chances of you passing it on. People not getting jabbed will mean that the virus will still be in the population for longer than it needs to be. Selfish thinking. I have to question that theory with this new variant. For what’s it’s worth I believe the vaccine was effective against earlier strains and for that reason I’m double jabbed. Cases and hospitalisations were coming down. But for once, instead of listening to the news, just ask yourself a very simple question. If the vaccine was effective against omicron, why do we have a new daily record number of cases every day when the majority of people have now been double and even triple jabbed? Having the jab clearly doesn’t stop transmission of omicron and there’s absolutely no evidence that unvaccinated people pass on a more deadly killer strain. I caught covid over Christmas. It was someone who was triple jabbed who gave it to me and I was no better or worse than they were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bigger Guns said: I have to question that theory with this new variant. For what’s it’s worth I believe the vaccine was effective against earlier strains and for that reason I’m double jabbed. Cases and hospitalisations were coming down. But for once, instead of listening to the news, just ask yourself a very simple question. If the vaccine was effective against omicron, why do we have a new daily record number of cases every day when the majority of people have now been double and even triple jabbed? Having the jab clearly doesn’t stop transmission of omicron and there’s absolutely no evidence that unvaccinated people pass on a more deadly killer strain. I caught covid over Christmas. It was someone who was triple jabbed who gave it to me and I was no better or worse than they were. Doesn't matter what you believe, its what can be demonstrated. The vaccines and booster slows down the transmission rate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger Guns Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Doesn't matter what you believe, its what can be demonstrated. The vaccines and booster slows down the transmission rate. That’s what they tell you on the news. Have you asked yourself that question and care to share your thoughts? Scientists once thought the earth was flat. They don’t always get it right you know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 13 hours ago, A47Owl said: Perhaps Dunkley was deemed to be a dangerous weapon. *corrected in for you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bigger Guns said: That’s what they tell you on the news. Have you asked yourself that question and care to share your thoughts? Scientists once thought the earth was flat. They don’t always get it right you know As I said it's demonstrable. Can you name a scientist who thought the Earth was flat? The scientific peer review method has been one of (if not the best) steps forwards of mankind. The data is constantly added to and constantly checked and updated so the results get closer and closer to the true picture. If you aren't listening to the news what is the source of your information? Doesn't begin with Q does it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger Guns Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: As I said it's demonstrable. Can you name a scientist who thought the Earth was flat? The scientific peer review method has been one of (if not the best) steps forwards of mankind. The data is constantly added to and constantly checked and updated so the results get closer and closer to the true picture. If you aren't listening to the news what is the source of your information? Doesn't begin with Q does it? I do listen to the news. I just take it with a pinch of salt at times. You still haven’t shared your thoughts on my question. You seem to be deflecting a little bit. If the vaccine is so effective against the new variant why do we have record cases every single day? If you are so attuned to the science it should be an easy question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bigger Guns said: That’s what they tell you on the news. Have you asked yourself that question and care to share your thoughts? Scientists once thought the earth was flat. They don’t always get it right you know Bigger Guns on the internet here telling people to believe him, David Icke and Right Said Fred instead of scientists Aye Alreyt then Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bigger Guns said: That’s what they tell you on the news. Have you asked yourself that question and care to share your thoughts? Scientists once thought the earth was flat. They don’t always get it right you know Can you share the name of a scientist who said the earth was flat. Just one will do. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Bigger Guns said: I do listen to the news. I just take it with a pinch of salt at times. You still haven’t shared your thoughts on my question. You seem to be deflecting a little bit. If the vaccine is so effective against the new variant why do we have record cases every single day? If you are so attuned to the science it should be an easy question. Is this where people have to simply remind you that vaccines don’t stop you catching the virus and was never meant to? Is it? Really??! We REALLY have to explain that to you after three years of it being explained almost daily to people?? We REALLY have to explain that to you AGAIN ?? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Bigger Guns said: I do listen to the news. I just take it with a pinch of salt at times. You still haven’t shared your thoughts on my question. You seem to be deflecting a little bit. If the vaccine is so effective against the new variant why do we have record cases every single day? If you are so attuned to the science it should be an easy question. The scientist please? You are just asking me to repeat myself now. The name of those scientists, who believed the earth is flat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 This thread is bringing out all the lost people isn’t it It’s bringing out the conspiracy theorists who are trying to tell you to believe THEM instead of absolute proven science that has every fact and statistic and evidence to back it up They want to try and scare you into believing their ‘science’ these people - the science and theories they saw on YouTube or got off their nannans facebook Dont fall for it Tell em to shut up and sod off In a global pandemic these people are quite simply traitors to their fellow humans TRAITORS 5 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger Guns Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Is this where people have to simply remind you that vaccines don’t stop you catching the virus and was never meant to? Is it? Really??! We REALLY have to explain that to you after three years of it being explained almost daily to people?? We REALLY have to explain that to you AGAIN ?? No you don’t have to explain that. I understand that it’s only supposed to reduce the risks as nothing can be 100% effective. I just question it’s effectiveness against the new variant and the number of daily cases at the moment despite the majority being triple vaccinated would back that up. In response to your other point, I’m not telling people to believe me. They can believe what they want. I just object to singling people out and calling them all the names under the sun because they have a different view point. Medical healthcare should be a choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger Guns Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: The scientist please? You are just asking me to repeat myself now. The name of those scientists, who believed the earth is flat? Can’t name one. I see you’ve swerved my question again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bigger Guns said: No you don’t have to explain that. I understand that it’s only supposed to reduce the risks as nothing can be 100% effective. I just question it’s effectiveness against the new variant and the number of daily cases at the moment despite the majority being triple vaccinated would back that up. But - and I can’t believe Inam having to actually explain this to a grown person - you don’t have the data to what the numbers would be without the vaccine Here is a whacky mad idea - the numbers might just be way way higher Also - if you wouldn’t mind - can you just talk us through the ICU figures of people in intensive care or who are dying because they’re not vaccinated? etc Then… if you could sit down, shut up with your conspiracy theory sheeeeeeeite and sod off that would do us all a favour We all have more than enough on our plates right now without having to listen to bob off Parson Cross telling us to ignore scientists and dribbling out Right Said Fred’s conspiracy made up shitttttt Ta Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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