reggae Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sambo89 said: And the one year extension offer was for what exactly? To carry on paying part of his wages but now they've backtracked on that? 1 year extension was the contract that he signed with wednesday. Nothing to do with Cardiff after 2022. But we have asked them if they would subside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Cardiff paying the difference to get him off the books does make sense. He was on a decent whack there supposedly. Not sure how it affects a renewal though, surely he doesn’t expect to stay on the same money he was at Cardiff? He’s a League One player now, he was a newly relegated PL player when he was earning that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 40 minutes ago, Whitechapel Owl said: It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest Me neither - considering the restrictions we always seem to be under. We may have had to wangle loads of strange deals even to get free transfers (insert an emoji of you know who) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggae Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: In short “it was worth a try… good luck Callum at your next (Championship) club” Thank you for reading between the lines. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 51 minutes ago, Sambo89 said: Just to make sure I've got this right. Paterson moves from Cardiff to Wednesday, Cardiff still pay part of his wages up until his Cardiff contract would've expired? Has this ever happened before? Then to add to that strange situation, Wednesday want to offer an extension to Paterson but still want Cardiff to pay towards a player that has absolutely nothing to do with the club? If I've got my head round that properly then that's the strangest thing I've heard. Yes it happens all the time. Teams wanting to get a player off the books will top up the wages of the club taking him to help get rid. Paying 10k instead of 30k is still a good saving, for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I'd get rid end of his contract Get better on a much lower wage But we'll offer him a fresh new 3 year deal and waste another few million on a player who ain't going to improve or improve us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, reggae said: 1 year extension was the contract that he signed with wednesday. Nothing to do with Cardiff after 2022. But we have asked them if they would subside And obviously, we can't afford to basically double his wages now with us. Sell him soon as then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, NeonLeon said: Not sure how it affects a renewal though, surely he doesn’t expect to stay on the same money he was at Cardiff? If he does it’s probably goodbye. We’re now in League One and don’t even know what position to play him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, reggae said: 1 year extension was the contract that he signed with wednesday. Nothing to do with Cardiff after 2022. But we have asked them if they would subside Why would Cardiff subsidise after 2022? Is there anything in it for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneTheOwl Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Keep it simple. Just do t offer the clown a contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, NeonLeon said: Cardiff paying the difference to get him off the books does make sense. He was on a decent whack there supposedly. Not sure how it affects a renewal though, surely he doesn’t expect to stay on the same money he was at Cardiff? He’s a League One player now, he was a newly relegated PL player when he was earning that money. Think its more the fact he will have signed a contract with us on 20k ( widely rough estimate) 50% from us and Cardiff helping us out by paying the rest to get him off the books. Problem is, we can't afford to pay the full amount from next season, and Patterson is entitled to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo89 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, pat blondeau said: Why would Cardiff subsidise after 2022? Is there anything in it for them? Maybe a percentage of sell on our something. It seems so bizarre to me that they've approached Cardiff and this that they might also think man city are lining up a £674333567m deal, so a 5% sell on would be a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Think its more the fact he will have signed a contract with us on 20k ( widely rough estimate) 50% from us and Cardiff helping us out by paying the rest to get him off the books. Problem is, we can't afford to pay the full amount from next season, and Patterson is entitled to it. His contract runs out end of this season doesn’t it? He’s not entitled to anything after July 1st, especially not his old wage considering he’s now playing in a league below, arguably two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, WayneTheOwl said: Keep it simple. Just do t offer the clown a contract Rock and a hard place for Wednesday. We won’t want to be seen as letting (yet more) experienced players leave for free… yet possibly can’t afford to keep him. The club seem to want to keep him if possible - wasn’t there talk a bit back by Moore, saying the club was looking at a new contract ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggae Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Think its more the fact he will have signed a contract with us on 20k ( widely rough estimate) 50% from us and Cardiff helping us out by paying the rest to get him off the books. Problem is, we can't afford to pay the full amount from next season, and Patterson is entitled to it. You aren't far off with wage. And Cardiff % 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, NeonLeon said: His contract runs out end of this season doesn’t it? He’s not entitled to anything after July 1st, especially not his old wage considering he’s now playing in a league below, arguably two. But he'll get what he wants anyway because he will be in the championship again next season, whether we are or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: But he'll get what he wants anyway because he will be in the championship again next season, whether we are or not. No one in the Championship will be paying Paterson what he’s on here. Just ask Rhodes, Lees and probably Reach. All more than likely took cuts to get moves, especially Lees & Rhodes going to Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, Birley Owl 1867 said: But he'll get what he wants anyway because he will be in the championship again next season, whether we are or not. Do you think there’ll be championship clubs queueing up for Pato? I think he’d be lucky to find a championship club… it’d be a league 1 move or back to Scotland for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: But he'll get what he wants anyway because he will be in the championship again next season, whether we are or not. Where he could also ask for a signing on fee, if he wants. Player wins. Wednesday lose (other than us finding a new cheaper player) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, Kopparberg said: Where he could also ask for a signing on fee, if he wants. Player wins. Wednesday lose (other than us finding a new cheaper player) We do have an automatic one year extension, don't forget. Which is what reggae will mean with the Cardiff dealings. It will be on same wages but Cardiff have nothing to do with it anymore. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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