SWFC after two centre backs this month

[adelphi1867]

As long as they are from some prem league clubs u23's, coz we all know there are no players below that level, that's why Sunderland, Rotherham,  Wycombe etc are all above us.

[Ray Von shabba]

2 hours ago, room0035 said:

So there is no news about any signing then, I am sure they were reporting a few days ago, we would have a centre back in before the Plymouth game, presumably the 2 bags of crisps and a packet of peanuts we want to pay has not been accepted.

 

Can anyone explain why we need a replacement for Corbeanu when we still have NML, Johnson and Shodipo at the club, add to that Moore keeps playing hunt as a wingback, do we need more players to sit on the bench or not even make the match day squad.

Said this in another thread a couple of days ago and got shot down by the ITKs saying we are at our players number limit and some had to go for others to come in and the 5 loanees we have are on season long loans and can't be sent back to parent clubs.

Don't know what caveats are included in loan contracts but if parent clubs can recall at any stage, then surely it works the other way and you can send back if injured or not doing business etc.

Also Hunt and Galvin returned, so in their view takes us over the top, even though Theo has gone.

Anyway, can see it being 11th hour end of Jan signings of journeymen or what's left after being picked over, if at all.

Scary isn't it, as we need players in now, not end of Jan when we've slipped further down the league.

 

 

[Mollymae's Dad]

I think Jordan Rhodes is available for loan

[prowl]

2 hours ago, Ray Von shabba said:

Said this in another thread a couple of days ago and got shot down by the ITKs saying we are at our players number limit and some had to go for others to come in and the 5 loanees we have are on season long loans and can't be sent back to parent clubs.

Don't know what caveats are included in loan contracts but if parent clubs can recall at any stage, then surely it works the other way and you can send back if injured or not doing business etc.

Also Hunt and Galvin returned, so in their view takes us over the top, even though Theo has gone.

Anyway, can see it being 11th hour end of Jan signings of journeymen or what's left after being picked over, if at all.

Scary isn't it, as we need players in now, not end of Jan when we've slipped further down the league.

 

 

We can't know what is in each individual contract but I think players at this level can only move or be recalled in a window.

 

Normally the loan can be until the next window or until the end of the season. The parent club has the option to recall but the club loaning the player doesn't normally have the right to send the player back. Special circumstances might change that but it would have to be by mutual agreement.

 

One think to bear in mind is that Wing signing on a permanent deal frees up a loan spot.

[mcmigo]

It will be interesting to see if there are any centre backs with shattered legs or broken knees still in the game to be able to buy.

 

 

[modboy]

43 minutes ago, Mollymae's Dad said:

I think Jordan Rhodes is available for loan

 

has he scored yet this season? Forgot all about him

[WhiteOwl91]

1 minute ago, modboy said:

 

has he scored yet this season? Forgot all about him

Only just come back from quite a bad back injury so think he’s barely played to now

[prowl]

35 minutes ago, modboy said:

 

has he scored yet this season? Forgot all about him

Played 2 scored 0.

[Ray Von shabba]

1 hour ago, prowl said:

1. We can't know what is in each individual contract but I think players at this level can only move or be recalled in a wind

 

2. One think to bear in mind is that Wing signing on a permanent deal frees up a loan spot.

1. My point exactly

2. How does it if you're limited to a set number of players..........only asking

 

Edited January 11, 2022 by Ray Von shabba

[nevthelodgemoorowl]

I may have found the perfect partnership to assemble as a back three.

 

I always thought that Stevie May was better playing deeper.

 

 

So...Brad Webb from Aldershot. Stevie May from Scotland. & Craig O' Bryant from Romset Town.

 

A striking partnership indeed  Bryant & May alongside new Captain Webb.

 

[Pughies Jockstrap]

6 hours ago, Kopparberg said:

It might be that clubs are reluctant to let players out on loan in case of needing cover for Covid cases.
 

(or at least they might say so)  

No might about it. Thats fact.

[Tommy Crawshaw]

2 hours ago, mcmigo said:

It will be interesting to see if there are any centre backs with shattered legs or broken knees still in the game to be able to buy.

 

 

 

Don't worry, if there are  their agents will be ringing the club before the window closes.   

[prowl]

33 minutes ago, Ray Von shabba said:

1. My point exactly

2. How does it if you're limited to a set number of players..........only asking

 

As I said without having the contracts to read we can't be sure but there's a standard form these things take. The parent club doesn't normally want the wage costs back on the books. I think it would be exceptional for the loaning club to have the right to send the player back. We tried to send Gibson back but that didn't go very well.

 

I think the set number of players is around 22/23 (not sure) and it may be that under 21 year olds don't count or I might be confusing 2 seperate rules. I seem to remember that as a relegated team we might be allowed more players for the first year. It's not my area of expertise. I'm sure someone else will be along shortly to give the exact rules.

 

 

[A47Owl]

6 hours ago, another1bitesthedust said:

Why not sign a left back for a change. I mean a proper one who can actually defend which would allow us to go to a back 4 if needed

A back 4 doesn't figure in Moore's jiggly ball machine. 

We've already got the players for a 4 at the back but our genius manager won't play it. 

[Tewkesbury]

How close

2 minutes ago, prowl said:

As I said without having the contracts to read we can't be sure but there's a standard form these things take. The parent club doesn't normally want the wage costs back on the books. I think it would be exceptional for the loaning club to have the right to send the player back. We tried to send Gibson back but that didn't go very well.

 

I think the set number of players is around 22/23 (not sure) and it may be that under 21 year olds don't count or I might be confusing 2 seperate rules. I seem to remember that as a relegated team we might be allowed more players for the first year. It's not my area of expertise. I'm sure someone else will be along shortly to give the exact rules.

 

 

How close are we to the squad cap and the wage cap for SCMP?

 

Funny thing is, Theo and Gibson going back doesn't matter as they both don't apply to the wage or squad limits.

[CircleSeven]

2 hours ago, mcmigo said:

It will be interesting to see if there are any centre backs with shattered legs or broken knees still in the game to be able to buy.

 

 

That isn’t really a pre requisite because we can sign fit players who’ve never been injured before and break them once they arrive…

[Luke]

Remember when the experts told us Moore had the player pulling power in this league 

 

Any decent player would stay clear of Moore and this club 

[@owlstalk]

Just now, Luke said:

Remember when the experts told us Moore had the player pulling power in this league 

 

Any decent player would stay clear of Moore and this club 

 

Which experts?

[Hirstyslaces]

8 hours ago, ANDY said:

Ahhhhhh

 

 

the old “ release info saying we’re looking for (insert position here). Wait til window shuts then say we didn’t get our targets” trick 

 

 

 

This(again).....probably. FFS!

[A47Owl]

1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

 

Which experts?

The "experts" that are Owlstalk contributors. 

Where alse are there any experts?