83owl Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 17 hours ago, room0035 said: It is telling that no one has touched him since he left us, he has failed to deliver at every club he has managed, he has fallen out with senior players and left every club in a worse position with players that are not good enough. a truly useless manager. If we had got the other Gary from Birmingham (Rowett) we would now be a league one team. We are a league 1 team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Wasn’t Monk sacked because he told the chairman he didn’t think the play offs were realistic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Never before have I heard of a manager joining a club and not able to bring in any training staff for nearly a year. Managing a club where the players weren’t being paid properly as well as having to negotiate transfer windows trying to bring players into a club with beforementioned payment problems and with a 12 point deduction. Despite all this we clawed back the points deduction and was on course to avoid relegation from the championship. Villified by owlstalk for his performance yet since he has been sacked our performances have got worse and the subsequent drop in points means we got relegated. We are now an average team in the league below. Villified by owlstalk for “freezing out” Westy and hutch - they were both brought back and both are either injured or when they did play they were/are absolutely crap. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Wasn’t Monk sacked because he told the chairman he didn’t think the play offs were realistic? They’re only just realistic now and we are in L1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behindthegoal Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Unable to manage vocal and experienced players is one of his weaknesses 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 21 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: Was in a tough situation when he was at Wednesday but ultimately wasn't good enough to turn it around. Think he was spot on though with Westwood and Hutchinson. Agree about WW & SH...but i feel if he would have stayed we would have remained a Championship Club..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, 83owl said: Never before have I heard of a manager joining a club and not able to bring in any training staff for nearly a year. Managing a club where the players weren’t being paid properly as well as having to negotiate transfer windows trying to bring players into a club with beforementioned payment problems and with a 12 point deduction. Despite all this we clawed back the points deduction and was on course to avoid relegation from the championship. Villified by owlstalk for his performance yet since he has been sacked our performances have got worse and the subsequent drop in points means we got relegated. We are now an average team in the league below. Villified by owlstalk for “freezing out” Westy and hutch - they were both brought back and both are either injured or when they did play they were/are absolutely crap. Wont go down well on here but this 100% 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 15 hours ago, beswetherick said: *Someone will. Just not someone as average as him, Moore, Jos… Sadly though, none of the managers that could turn the club around would have any interest in joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 55 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Wasn’t Monk sacked because he told the chairman he didn’t think the play offs were realistic? Yeah then Tony Puliis convinced him he could make them happen. And Chansiri believed him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningaround Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 20 hours ago, Django said: To be fair to Monk he was doing great until THAT Christmas. We were solid and getting done excellent results. What happened Boxing Day onwards (wages not paid?) must have been pretty drastic to see us go from 3rd to a relegation battle agreed here very drastic demise i don't think to Monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said: Wasn’t Monk sacked because he told the chairman he didn’t think the play offs were realistic? "I expected top 2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Time really does make people on here forget. Carlos is a god to some people on here. Moore has been here about a third of time as Monk was given. The performances we some of the worst i've ever seen. And he was given over 12 months to rectify it. We were literally surrendering before kick off. The 3-1 defeat to Derby makes me shudder when looking back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 16 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I honestly genuinely 100% definitely believe now that it just doesn’t make any difference who the manager is at this football club anymore And we all know why that is dont we. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 21 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Incorrect Monk was on track statistically to keep us up (JUST) despite players not getting paid, embargoes etc etc We got rid We got relegated You must be talking on a points per game basis which is out of context because exponentially the trajectory of the results in the run up to his sacking was below that average. That said we managed to appoint an even worse manager and still nearly stayed up, so he may have done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said: Time really does make people on here forget. Carlos is a god to some people on here. Moore has been here about a third of time as Monk was given. The performances we some of the worst i've ever seen. And he was given over 12 months to rectify it. We were literally surrendering before kick off. The 3-1 defeat to Derby makes me shudder when looking back. To be fair I think every manager from and including Brian Laws has had at least 1-2 games that made you dread ever watching Wednesday again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, 83owl said: Never before have I heard of a manager joining a club and not able to bring in any training staff for nearly a year. Managing a club where the players weren’t being paid properly as well as having to negotiate transfer windows trying to bring players into a club with beforementioned payment problems and with a 12 point deduction. Despite all this we clawed back the points deduction and was on course to avoid relegation from the championship. Villified by owlstalk for his performance yet since he has been sacked our performances have got worse and the subsequent drop in points means we got relegated. We are now an average team in the league below. Villified by owlstalk for “freezing out” Westy and hutch - they were both brought back and both are either injured or when they did play they were/are absolutely crap. Just to clarify that when the above poster says 'owlstalk' he means many Owls fans and not me or everyone on this site Ta Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 51 minutes ago, bobness said: "I expected top 2" Will never forget Monk’s face when Chansiri said this to the press in his opening press conference. Priceless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Will never forget Monk’s face when Chansiri said this to the press in his opening press conference. Priceless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, 83owl said: We are a league 1 team Should have read not now bloody Google auto correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 22 hours ago, Jack the Hat said: You must be talking on a points per game basis which is out of context because exponentially the trajectory of the results in the run up to his sacking was below that average. That said we managed to appoint an even worse manager and still nearly stayed up, so he may have done it. Whats more relevant is in his last 2 matches we beat Bournemouth and drew at Millwall, hardly results that would indicate he had lost the dressing room,and at a time when he wouldn't play KW or SH... I thought myself that we should have given him 6 more games to see if those results continued.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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