JemmoJemoJemmo Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 minute ago, JemmoJemoJemmo said: What are you on about, he was at least 3 yards onside! it wasn’t even close to being offside. If you pause it, you can see when the ball is 3 yards from the passing player he’s still a couple of yards onside then. Wrong goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 One off horror result. dust off go again nothing to worry about 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steve Down South said: Stop trying to defend such a shambolic performance by looking for pathetic excuses. A decent team shows a bit of character and battles back from such a setback. We show no fight at all, unless you count Bannan’s petulance. Chill out, dude. I don't think pointing out that the first goal was offside is a big deal. If the linesman spots the obvious, then we carry on at 0-0. We've been dreadful since Dunkley got injured, but that's hardly surprising given we now have a defence of Palmer, Johnson and Brennan, is it? They just don't seem to have the basics of defending between them without a seasoned centre-back there to organise them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Another aspect to this particular story is this: Chansiri will have been encouraged by the unbeaten run recently and both he and Moore will have been thinking we just get to the January window then sign a few more loans/free signings and storm to promotion/playoffs So Channers won't have been looking around for a replacement This sudden defeat puts him in the predicament that if he sacks Moore we could well go months before finding any manager prepared to come to this club to work under these conditions for this chairman Also - Channers could see this defeat as a one off stumble in form against the team top of the division and might stick to plan A of getting to January transfer window Not saying he should or shouldn't sack him - just that I doubt very much he's even considered looking for a replacement in the background yet 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, slinger208b said: Debatable... It looks offside to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: It looks offside to me. Still debatable; Feet level, advantage to attacker... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Out of interest I looked back to the start of the season to try and find some opinions about where we stood at the time. Given how obvious it was that... a) Moore is hopeless b) Our recruitment has been dismal (to some degree or other) c) Automatic promotion should be the reasonable expectation ...then there is a distinct lack of such opinions being reflected in the thread linked below. It's a funny old game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Another aspect to this particular story is this: Chansiri will have been encouraged by the unbeaten run recently and both he and Moore will have been thinking we just get to the January window then sign a few more loans/free signings and storm to promotion/playoffs So Channers won't have been looking around for a replacement This sudden defeat puts him in the predicament that if he sacks Moore we could well go months before finding any manager prepared to come to this club to work under these conditions for this chairman Also - Channers could see this defeat as a one off stumble in form against the team top of the division and might stick to plan A of getting to January transfer window Not saying he should or shouldn't sack him - just that I doubt very much he's even considered looking for a replacement in the background yet Fair points, but wouldn't bet against this rabble losing again on Sunday at Shrewsbury, which will cue an epic meltdown. We had that poor spell earlier in the season, maybe some contingency work was done then on managers, but doubt it. Irrespective, the thought of Chansiri appointing a new manager frightens me to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, striker said: Fair points, but wouldn't bet against this rabble losing again on Sunday at Shrewsbury, which will cue an epic meltdown. We had that poor spell earlier in the season, maybe some contingency work was done then on managers, but doubt it. Irrespective, the thought of Chansiri appointing a new manager frightens me to death. Same mate We could well go on a bad run Equally we could go on a crazy positive one It's a bonkers league and an unprecedented season But yeah - Channers shopping for managers on top of all that would be horrific 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, mcmigo said: One off horror result. dust off go again nothing to worry about Not a one off tho is it 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, edinburghowl said: Sheffield Wednesday having a good season in the 3rd division of English football is not “unattainable perfection”. It should be an absolute minimum standard. Been really hard trying to debate this very point recently.....acceptance of poor performances and results,in a league full of poor sides,together with seeing the two teams relegated with us do so much better has been galling...... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 minute ago, parajack said: Been really hard trying to debate this very point recently.....acceptance of poor performances and results,in a league full of poor sides,together with seeing the two teams relegated with us do so much better has been galling...... It's frustrating yes - for sure 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Chill out, dude. I don't think pointing out that the first goal was offside is a big deal. If the linesman spots the obvious, then we carry on at 0-0. We've been dreadful since Dunkley got injured, but that's hardly surprising given we now have a defence of Palmer, Johnson and Brennan, is it? They just don't seem to have the basics of defending between them without a seasoned centre-back there to organise them. Ok, I’ve been meditating for the last 5 minutes and now feel pretty serene Can’t agree on first goal but certainly with you on performance since losing Dunkley - this must be up there with Stevenage in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steve Down South said: Ok, I’ve been meditating for the last 5 minutes and now feel pretty serene Can’t agree on first goal but certainly with you on performance since losing Dunkley - this must be up there with Stevenage in 2011. I just hope Dunkley's only gone off as a precaution, or one of Iorfa, Hutchinson or Gibson is ready to return. We simply can't go on with a back three like this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Down South Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I just hope Dunkley's only gone off as a precaution, or one of Iorfa, Hutchinson or Gibson is ready to return. We simply can't go on with a back three like this one. Agreed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, Luke said: O look 5 conceded now Shambolic..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Before we kicked off we had the longest unbeaten run in the whole four divisions Darren Moore: Hold my beer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Luke said: Not a one off tho is it Ha ha you have draws and cup losses in there ?’ comedy gold! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Oh well, such is life as a Wednesday fan. Sleep it off. Slowly build up enthusiasm for the next match. Start that match with optimism, wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 A couple of times in this thread we've spun the wheel of angry football manager slogans and come up with the 'not achieved anything' chestnut. Well, can someone tell me what Moore has done so wrong in that regard that his rivals at the top of League One have got so right? Because if you looked at their records without the benefit of seeing the names and clubs, you'd struggle to pick out any of them as having the kind of pedigree that some fans are evidently expecting. It's almost as if such opinions are being expressed out of nothing short of expedience, passing itself off unconvincingly as considered thought. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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