mcmigo Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Remember this guy - on loan under Stuart Gray, maybe played for us for a month - looked solid. Made his Chelsea debut the season before we had him on loan. He is now 26 years old - ridiculously he is still at Chelsea and hasn't played for them once since he was on loan with us! What sort of a messed up model is that? He nearly played the other night due to the COVID cases but didn't in the end. I guess goalies espec when they are older get used to being sub and not playing e.g. Lee Grant at Man Utd - but for this guy it has just been loan spells his whole career when they manage to do a deal for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 It’s a joke Chelsea own all of these players but still tried to call game off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, mcmigo said: Remember this guy - on loan under Stuart Gray, maybe played for us for a month - looked solid. Made his Chelsea debut the season before we had him on loan. He is now 26 years old - ridiculously he is still at Chelsea and hasn't played for them once since he was on loan with us! What sort of a messed up model is that? He nearly played the other night due to the COVID cases but didn't in the end. I guess goalies espec when they are older get used to being sub and not playing e.g. Lee Grant at Man Utd - but for this guy it has just been loan spells his whole career when they manage to do a deal for him. According to Jason Cundy a few years ago they are all earning around £20-30k a week so not all bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 They don't all earn anything like that amount tbf But some earn a lot more than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I would imagine that a lot of young footballers are more bothered about the money and the status and all that comes with life as a footballer instead of the ambition to achieve anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I don't remember him at all. This shows what a farce football has become. he's been a Chelsea player for nearly 10 years and NEVER played a game. At £5,000 a week (just a guess) he's probably "earnt" between 2 and 3 million pounds. If he's invested wisely he will retire a millionaire having never played a game for his club. Bizarre. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 A wasted career. Has not played for Chelsea since 13/14 season ( he played 30 mins in a league cup game ) and is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 A quick check suggests he made 4 appearances for us. Think he then got sent back. I seem to recall his Dad was a Wednesday fan or ex player or something… can’t remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, mcmigo said: A wasted career. Has not played for Chelsea since 13/14 season ( he played 30 mins in a league cup game ) and is still there. Because Chelsea’s model is a lot about owning players and sending them out for a season and making money that way. at Wednesday all our players are to hopefully help the first team or develop for the first team they have players to make them money that have no chance of ever making first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 A coule of year's ago pre pandemic it was being reported that Chelsea had around 41players on loan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Django said: I would imagine that a lot of young footballers are more bothered about the money and the status and all that comes with life as a footballer instead of the ambition to achieve anything Oreyt for some innit. I'd gladly take a ton a money for doing nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem Poric Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Only 22 loanees this year. 37 last year. The 41 was 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockieOwl Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I remember when we signed him there was a quote from Mourinho saying if he didn't play for England he would have failed him. I guess he failed him. Don't remember him being solid though, he looked to be out of his depth and not surprised to see him sign for a league 1 side on loan after us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem Poric Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 We had Baker when the pitch was at it's worst and he couldnt cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Didn't Chelsea put us on some sort blacklist for loaning players from them for a while after we loaned this fella cos we barely played him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birstall Owl Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Did tickle me yesterday when he was listed as being one of Chelsea's unavailable players for the game against Brentford last night At 26 I think playing for Chelsea that ship has sailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I think the model of football has changed a lot, as have the roles of players. The ‘squad player’ is more and more popular amongst the big boys These younger players don’t seem to mind staying at a big PL club while having some decent loans here and there, probably while pocketing £5-10k per week Not the worst life I’d imagine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I remember he rocked up and Chelsea probably thought why the feck did we send this kid here. The pitch was absolutely atrocious in the final months under Mandaric. Not sure how we didn’t have broken ankles throughout the playing squad. Also recall Mourinho in an interview saying he only has himself to blame if Baker and Izzy Brown don’t become England players. Well… Back then Chelsea were producing a lot of young players who flattered to deceive. They got it right in recent years mind with the likes of Mount, James, Hudson Odoi, Abraham etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Birstall Owl said: Did tickle me yesterday when he was listed as being one of Chelsea's unavailable players for the game against Brentford last night At 26 I think playing for Chelsea that ship has sailed. To be fair is it a bad life? 26 years old, played a decent bit albeit on loan. Had the experience of living in Holland, Germany, Turkey and Milton Keynes. Probably on a good contract and would have to take a big pay cut to play regular first team football elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Think it was a recent episode of Undr The Cosh where one of the guests was saying Man City have got kids on 20k+ a week, the rationale being that if one of them makes it to the first team then it’s worth the huge outlay for all of them collectively. Crazy money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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