An interesting read regarding players wages and some outrageous facts.

[TommyCraig]

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-footballs-wage-crisis-sits-in-the-championship-rather-than-the-premier-league

 

Over the last 10 years Brentford have spent 153% of income on wages alone. Absolutely ridiculous and surely it can't go on. 

Obviously we've suffered and get a mention as one of the teams who fell foul of chasing the carrot. 

 

Man City 23 billion

Man Utd 22 billion

Chelsea 21 billion

 

66 billion in wages for just 3 clubs. 

Makes what they offered the EFL clubs to keep the game going through covid look rather miserly. 

 

The players earn far too much and I hope this madness ends soon. 

 

[Manwë]

34 minutes ago, TommyCraig said:

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-footballs-wage-crisis-sits-in-the-championship-rather-than-the-premier-league

 

Over the last 10 years Brentford have spent 153% of income on wages alone. Absolutely ridiculous and surely it can't go on. 

Obviously we've suffered and get a mention as one of the teams who fell foul of chasing the carrot. 

 

Man City 23 billion

Man Utd 22 billion

Chelsea 21 billion

 

66 billion in wages for just 3 clubs. 

Makes what they offered the EFL clubs to keep the game going through covid look rather miserly. 

 

The players earn far too much and I hope this madness ends soon. 

 

You're out by a factor of 10, it's £6.6bn.

 

I suspect Brentford's turnover will rise substantially in the next decade, EPL money and a new stadium.  Regardless, we are up there with them in the turnover/wages league, but they're a EPL side and we are in League One.

 

The EPL offer goes above and beyond any other industry.  Costa won't be giving money to Starbucks.  Airbus won't be giving money to Boeing.  And what would we do with it anyway?  Give it straight to the players, that's what.  They'd be better off placing any money in a fund to call on when a club is about to go under.

[Inspector Lestrade]

How much do agents get for doing bugger all?

 

 

[Tea Baggins]

17 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

How much do agents get for doing bugger all?

 

 

Too much.

 

Thats the side of the game that needs getting rid of.

 

They are about as much use as an estate agent or titties on a fish.

[TommyCraig]

51 minutes ago, Manwë said:

You're out by a factor of 10, it's £6.6bn.

Oops. 

[TommyCraig]

The players have far too much sway is my take from it. When you see the numbers it's still staggering even though its been going on since Bosman. 

I know they have the same rights as any other employees but surely we can come up with in house agreements to stop this decadence, throughout Europe and the UK. 

It's obscene. 

[soldierboyblue]

1 hour ago, Manwë said:

You're out by a factor of 10, it's £6.6bn.

 

He did state OUTRAGEOUS facts 

[mcmigo]

Brentford one a bit of a red herring , as their model is based on high positive transfer balances to fund said wage bill. Means they sell their best players all the time but it works for them as a model . Hence why their overall finances look ok.

[jp1981]

1 hour ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

How much do agents get for doing bugger all?

 

 

Aren't FIFA looking at changing the amount agent's can ask for and regulating them?

[Supersiggi2]

It's all Jimmy Hill's fault

[@owlstalk]

11 hours ago, TommyCraig said:

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-footballs-wage-crisis-sits-in-the-championship-rather-than-the-premier-league

 

Over the last 10 years Brentford have spent 153% of income on wages alone. Absolutely ridiculous and surely it can't go on. 

Obviously we've suffered and get a mention as one of the teams who fell foul of chasing the carrot. 

 

Man City 23 billion

Man Utd 22 billion

Chelsea 21 billion

 

66 billion in wages for just 3 clubs. 

Makes what they offered the EFL clubs to keep the game going through covid look rather miserly. 

 

The players earn far too much and I hope this madness ends soon. 

 

IF players were no longer paid millions and millions
IF agents weren't given millions and millions or even better eradicated entirely
IF the PFA Negotiated a deal for the players where they're paid a nice sum but not eyewatering figures
IF advisors weren't given millions and millions to advise who to sign etc

The product/game would be the exact same, but ticket prices could be lowered to a fiver each to get in

 

The game, the experience,  and supporting your team and club would be the exact same thing

What's basically happening is the ordinary working man is coughing up a staggering amount of money to give to millionaires and multi-millionaires

[Ian]

Anyone who thinks agents get paid too much or do bugger all would be advised to educate themselves more on such matters.

 

Similarly, whilst there will always be subjective individual cases of “players getting paid too much”, overall they don’t.

 

Players get paid what clubs decide they are worth and given the money flowing in to the game which is 99% about those players then it’s probably about right.

 

I’d be interested to know the percentage of Prem and EFL clubs that have gone bust in that 10 year period compared to any other industry

[@owlstalk]

Just now, Ian said:

Anyone who thinks agents get paid too much or do bugger all would be advised to educate themselves more on such matters. 

 

 

Not really

 

The PFA could easily have a team negotiating wages for players and eradicate agents from the game
 

[@owlstalk]

1 minute ago, Ian said:

 

 

Similarly, whilst there will always be subjective individual cases of “players getting paid too much”, overall they don’t. 

 

 

Not sure you're reading the room here Ian

 

 

[Ian]

Just now, @owlstalk said:

 

 

Not really

 

The PFA could easily have a team negotiating wages for players and eradicate agents from the game
 

So you want to create a monopoly re players agents?

 

The PFA have that team now and yet many players decide not to use them. Why do you think that is?

[Ian]

1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

Not sure you're reading the room here Ian

 

 

I’m completely reading the room….doesn’t mean I have to agree with it does it.

 

in fact I’m sure you are delighted I’m not!

[@owlstalk]

Just now, Ian said:

So you want to create a monopoly re players agents?

 

The PFA have that team now and yet many players decide not to use them. Why do you think that is?

 

 

Because they can get even MORE money by using their own agent

My thoughts above were an overall total reduction in player wages right across the board and a reduction in ticket prices to match it

In for a fiver, players paid a reasonable amount

The current player wage is massively (hugely) inflated and doesn't need to be

In for a fiver, and player wages down to reasonable levels and the product/game is exactly the same but without ordinary working men handing over their wages to millionaires and millionaire agents and advisors 

[@owlstalk]

1 minute ago, Ian said:

I’m completely reading the room….doesn’t mean I have to agree with it does it.

 

in fact I’m sure you are delighted I’m not!

 

 

Makes no odds to me at all mate
But of all the things to try and justify, player wages, massive agents getting rich etc  isn't one I'd expect anyone to seriously try to justify

[@owlstalk]

When Hirsty and Waddle played, their wages were more than enough to live on, as did nearly every player before them.

Yet when players from that era or before are interviewed they're asked "I bet you wish you were playing now with that amount of money sloshing round in football eh?"

That to me doesn't suggest that todays eyewatering wages (paid for by the working man) aren't too high

Everyone knows they're too high

Especially the ordinary working man who pays a considerable percentage of his wages to just get in to watch a game of football

[matthefish2002]

IMO Players wages have got to ridiculous levels because of the multi billionaires who have got involved in the game for sport washing or ego boosting reasons.

A lot of clubs now seem to be more like franchise sides you get in American sport than the clubs they used to be a few generations ago.

 

The people who ran football clubs before were local business people who were well off but a world away from the Glazers and Roman Abramovich, these people were far from perfect but did have a local connection and were normally supporters of the club from childhood.