areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: One way to finding out but attitudes have changed dramatically, the principal of treating one section of sporting fans differently from others is wrong in my eyes. I think that's based on past experience and events surrounding football, unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 The club needs to be seen to be dealing with it firmly so that someone else doesn’t do it for us. Fans need to look in the mirror rather than point fingers at the club for being ‘a bit harsh/over the top’ on this one 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, doubleo said: What are you talking about ? Ofcourse they will be victims. If 3500 SWFC fans are banned from away matches because of the behaviour of, say 50, they are victims. All teams respond to the support on the terraces, so without fans, the team will be victims, and because of the possible lack of performance of the team the club and the rest of the 25000 will be victims. All as a result of the actions of 50. As for your example - ofcourse my guest would be a victim. How would you like it if when visiting a relative some unknown stranger wandered into your relatives garden, say where your kids were playing, and wandered out again ? It's not a question of like, that is the law. Someone comes on/in your property and doesn't actually break the law then all you can do is ask them to leave. You are only a victim if a law has been broken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: It's not a question of like, that is the law. Someone comes on/in your property and doesn't actually break the law then all you can do is ask them to leave. You are only a victim if a law has been broken. Ok mate, I'm not going to spend any more time trying to convince you of this after this post If 3500 SWFC fans who regularly follow Wednesday away from home are banned by the EFL because of the behaviour of 50 they have been punished because of the action of others. By definition they are victims of the actions of 50 of their so called fellow Wednesdayites. They just need to grow up 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, doubleo said: Ok mate, I'm not going to spend any more time trying to convince you of this after this post If 3500 SWFC fans who regularly follow Wednesday away from home are banned by the EFL because of the behaviour of 50 they have been punished because of the action of others. By definition they are victims of the actions of 50 of their so called fellow Wednesdayites. They just need to grow up Grow up? It’s joy and passion..bore off..as if the EFL are goin to ban us for this ..it was hardly Oldham...you must be one of those who think the EFL. ‘’have It in for us’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, doubleo said: Ok mate, I'm not going to spend any more time trying to convince you of this after this post If 3500 SWFC fans who regularly follow Wednesday away from home are banned by the EFL because of the behaviour of 50 they have been punished because of the action of others. By definition they are victims of the actions of 50 of their so called fellow Wednesdayites. They just need to grow up Oh dear ok I agree that they should grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleowl74 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I find it all a bit embarrassing and tin pot. It’s league one against Crewe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 The club can't exactly ignore it, can they? Yes, all it was is a bunch of numpties enjoying themselves a bit too much, but spectators are not allowed to invade the pitch. That's particularly the case when you are 48 minutes into a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: See if you still feel the same if we receive a sanction like fans banned from away matches or reduced allocations. Won’t happen. Even if it did, yes I’d still feel that the only people moaning about this are snowflakes and kill joys. A few fans get carried away celebrating a goal and suddenly all the miserable old so and so’s are acting like they’ve been smashing up stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Are the club going to look into the stewarding sorry non stewarding at the game yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Roscoe P. Coltrane said: Are the club going to look into the stewarding sorry non stewarding at the game yesterday? Well, the probably will, but that doesn't mean the fans were in the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, SiJ said: Well, the probably will, but that doesn't mean the fans were in the right. Yes I know More stringent stewarding might have prevented the actions of said fans... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axolotl Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 So, it is an overreaction, because they, the fans, were merely celebrating a goal. Fair enough. A few clarifying points, though. Can we have a little jog and jump on the pitch after every goal then? Or is it only when we score a 2nd? Does number of stewards factor in at all? What's the threshold of so? Does the opposition matter, or is any opposition ok? Can we do it at home, or is it only away fans who can celebrate on the pitch briefly? Does this also include opposition fans at Hillsborough? Just celebrate in the stands. It isn't rocket science, nor does it detract from the goal that was scored 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Why do fans have to run on the pitch during a game which doesn't really matter? It's not a top of the table, two matches to go scenario, so stupid. The rules are there for the safety of all, especially players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Should the fans have gone on the pitch? No, they shouldn't. Did they stop the game from continuing? No. Was anyone violated, threatened, abused? Not as far as I am aware. Was it good natured? From all the evidence I have seen, it was. Taking everything into consideration a warning should be given about future behaviour and left at that. The posters on here calling for fans to be banned, would you approve of the fans who went on against Wycombe would you approve of them being banned? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: I never mentioned hurt, I said victim. For a crime to have been committed surely there has to be a victim. It should be nothing more than trespass and left as a civil offence. The law is an ass at times. So its ok to take a gun out and randomly fire it at people but so long as you dont hit anyone then that's ok is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, Ian said: So its ok to take a gun out and randomly fire it at people but so long as you dont hit anyone then that's ok is it? Not even going to reply to that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt109 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, SettleForADraw said: Have Wigan had lower allocations after causing actual trouble at both Bolton and Plymouth? don't know, but they may in the future, but I don't know........................... IF the EFL are keeping an eye on us [I don't know that they are] just recently we have had a game that was halted and players had to leave the pitch for what turned out to be fans fighting I am led to believe, [North stand incident the other week]. Yesterday we had soft toys [linesman had to shift a few off the playing surface, did he report this to the ref, again I don't know. The ref made a point of running over to pick up the inflatable [snow man?] and take it over to the 4th official. We had 2 incidents of fans encroaching onto the playing area yesterday, was all this in his match report? I believe the term is "building a case". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, lt109 said: don't know, but they may in the future, but I don't know........................... IF the EFL are keeping an eye on us [I don't know that they are] just recently we have had a game that was halted and players had to leave the pitch for what turned out to be fans fighting I am led to believe, [North stand incident the other week]. Yesterday we had soft toys [linesman had to shift a few off the playing surface, did he report this to the ref, again I don't know. The ref made a point of running over to pick up the inflatable [snow man?] and take it over to the 4th official. We had 2 incidents of fans encroaching onto the playing area yesterday, was all this in his match report? I believe the term is "building a case". Don't forget the sausage roll that could be undoing of us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt109 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Don't forget the sausage roll that could be undoing of us. as I said building a case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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