PL & EFL in talks to remove parachute payments

[ANDY]

 

[sheffield_dave]

Now I've not read much about that report from the other day and all the other negotiations etc at the moment, but this has got to be aligned with some other deal hasn't it surely?

 

I think parachute payments stink and have warped the level of competition in this league, but simply getting rid of them with nothing else in return feels like the PL getting away with something again.

[Plonk]

Fairly sure that the recommendation in the government report was that the money be distributed through the EFL rather than giving it to three relegated teams. 

Looks like they are treating the report seriously and starting to put their house in order rather than the government put it in order for them?

Not that I would trust any government to do that but maybe the threat will be enough 

[SiJ]

1 hour ago, Plonk said:

Fairly sure that the recommendation in the government report was that the money be distributed through the EFL rather than giving it to three relegated teams. 

Looks like they are treating the report seriously and starting to put their house in order rather than the government put it in order for them?

Not that I would trust any government to do that but maybe the threat will be enough 

The Premier League are petrified of some outside regulator taking control of the game. 

 

They've pretty much had it their own way now for 30 odd years. 

 

Addressing stuff like parachute payments and fairer distribution of wealth may be a way of fending off the outside regulator. 

[scram]

The govt can't regulate football under FIFA rules

[Goose]

I must be the only person not bothered about parachute payments, I have an issue that they can spend this and then have greater allowed losses.  Once down they must cut their cloth and at least break even on nett spend.

[nevthelodgemoorowl]

There will be those who want to tie Crouch in knots of raffia. 

• One game.
• One governing body.
• one standard set of rules.
• One fund for all from MSM buyers.
• One league structure.
• One limit on squad size from U16's up.
• One PAYE taxation system for all club employees.
• One proportional Youth football football community scheme throughout the league structure.  

[nevthelodgemoorowl]

1 hour ago, scram said:

The govt can't regulate football under FIFA rules

 

Conversely, FIFA has no power over the UK Government. 

[scram]

Of course it hasn't - not in a regulatory sense - but it certainly does have "soft power"

 

It's on display perpetually - look how many govts fawn over FIFA to try to get the world cup for eg

 

FIFA has the power to ban the England team from their comps due to govt interference

[nevthelodgemoorowl]

10 minutes ago, scram said:

Of course it hasn't - not in a regulatory sense - but it certainly does have "soft power"

 

It's on display perpetually - look how many govts fawn over FIFA to try to get the world cup for eg

 

FIFA has the power to ban the England team from their comps due to govt interference

 

Doffing our caps to 'soft power' will only serve to keep us in the pockets of corrupt FIFA. How many deaths in the Qatar building project again ?  

[Putney]

All it'll do is move the gap slightly higher up and make it even more difficult for Championship clubs and the yo-yo clubs.

 

How can you expect a club to build a squad for PL survival that won't completely cripple them if they get relegated and face FFP in the EFL.

[Plonk]

One group of corrupt administrators arguing with another group of corrupt administrators about another group of corrupt administrators. While we, the fans get dry bummed. 

What could possibly go wrong?

[yeadonowl]

1 hour ago, Putney said:

All it'll do is move the gap slightly higher up and make it even more difficult for Championship clubs and the yo-yo clubs.

 

How can you expect a club to build a squad for PL survival that won't completely cripple them if they get relegated and face FFP in the EFL.

Instead what you have now is teams like Fulham being able to pay Mitrovic 100k a week in the championship and over £10m for Wilson

[Kopparberg]

Could it be that the Prem are just bored of West Brom, Fulham, Norwich and Watford for whatever reason.  (no offence to them) 

[Ever the pessimist]

Leeds exec likening the idea to Mao’s Great Leap Forward.

Ffs.

[Putney]

18 hours ago, yeadonowl said:

Instead what you have now is teams like Fulham being able to pay Mitrovic 100k a week in the championship and over £10m for Wilson

 

In the bigger picture what's more important for any football pyramid, an accessible top flight or an even second division?

 

The gulf between the Premier League and the yo-yo clubs and Championship is constantly increasing, clubs need to invest to stay up and with no parachute payments but financial fairplay in place then it's ultra high risk, high reward.

 

Even if you did away with the parachute payments to level the playing field in the second tier, it isn't going to stop your Mel Morris's and Chansiris of the world trying to spend and failing.

 

Whether rightly or wrongly the Premier League holds all the cards here and with FFP in place then no one is upsetting the apple cart.

 

[yeadonowl]

1 hour ago, Putney said:

 

In the bigger picture what's more important for any football pyramid, an accessible top flight or an even second division?

 

The gulf between the Premier League and the yo-yo clubs and Championship is constantly increasing, clubs need to invest to stay up and with no parachute payments but financial fairplay in place then it's ultra high risk, high reward.

 

Even if you did away with the parachute payments to level the playing field in the second tier, it isn't going to stop your Mel Morris's and Chansiris of the world trying to spend and failing.

 

Whether rightly or wrongly the Premier League holds all the cards here and with FFP in place then no one is upsetting the apple cart.

 

Your first sentence highlights the issue 

 

The premiership accessibility is very limited.

 

In a usual season 2 out of the 3 places would be taken up by a team with a parachute payment

 

Yo- Yo clubs are being rewarded not only for their promotion season but also getting a 3 year kicker for a season of abject failure

 

Parachute payments need removing with the players contracts amending to include wage reductions so the relegated clubs can meet their FFP obligations 

 

In all likelihood’s a relegated side will also be able to sell a couple of players for huge money to cover any shortfalls 

[SiJ]

17 hours ago, Ever the pessimist said:

Leeds exec likening the idea to Mao’s Great Leap Forward.

Ffs.

Where do they get idiots like this? 

[Willie Henderson]

Getting rid of the parachute payments is a start, at least it will make Championship clubs think hard before gambling with the club's existence just to get to the promised land.

 

Spreading the money all down the Championship would be another step in the right direction.

 

But ultimately, there needs to be a greater levelling of the ridiculous amount of money sloshing around in the PL.

 

The problem seems to me that the football league is no longer a pyramid, it's a mushroom, or more actually a poisonous toadstool, with a hugely bloated top that is the Premier League.

[Tommy Crawshaw]

21 hours ago, Putney said:

How can you expect a club to build a squad for PL survival that won't completely cripple them if they get relegated and face FFP in the EFL.

 

The trouble is some clubs don't want to spend to compete in the PL when they get promoted. They are happy to get their season in the PL, pocket the hundreds of millions in TV money etc and then trouser another £43M when relegated.

 

They know they will have a team to good for the Championship and are content to yo yo up and down and keep the money rolling in.

E.g. Norwich, Fulham, West Brom.