Inspector Lestrade Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Some people just thrive on being able to post that some people love doom and gloom I was going to post the next link in the chain but couldn't work it out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, ANDY said: what’s it got to do with HMRC ? this/these are loans secured against the stadium. The info is from companies house. Sorry mate meant HMLR. Land registry receive records of legal charges etc. They then update records of other agencies. And from personal experience they aren’t always good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Teddy Nickelarse said: In summary so far; there might be something to worry about but then again there might not be. I’m sure the chairman being so great as he is at respecting the supporters will be happy to be transparent with us… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The coach Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, owls maniac said: I’m sure the chairman being so great as he is at respecting the supporters will be happy to be transparent with us… Somethings amiss...he’s been back a few days and we havnt had a bollocking yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Henderson Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 11 hours ago, WendyOK said: Give it a rest, he’s paid a loan off with a loan. Similar to a balance transfer for credit cards. Not ideal, but means we have more time now That would make the most sense, the second loan probably includes the interest from the first, looking at the weird amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahowl Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 9 hours ago, CircleSeven said: Sorry mate meant HMLR. Land registry receive records of legal charges etc. They then update records of other agencies. And from personal experience they aren’t always good at it. No they don't. Its up to the lender and borrower to ensure charge is registered at Companies House using form MR2, as many charges are not on land. Land registry deal with and register charges on specific property titles only, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, pahowl said: No they don't. Its up to the lender and borrower to ensure charge is registered at Companies House using form MR2, as many charges are not on land. Land registry deal with and register charges on specific property titles only, The charge on the stadium is a charge on property isn’t it? So lodged with HMLR? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WendyOK Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Willie Henderson said: That would make the most sense, the second loan probably includes the interest from the first, looking at the weird amount. Aye it does you’re right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, WendyOK said: Aye it does you’re right are no one else’s alarm bells ringing that he hasn’t paid this loan off and now owes closer to 7m than 6m hes skint. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Henderson Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, ANDY said: are no one else’s alarm bells ringing that he hasn’t paid this loan off and now owes closer to 7m than 6m hes skint. If it's right then it is worrying, but we can thank our lucky stars that Wonga aren't around anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1984 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 No need to worry my mates dogs sisters cats uncle who was married to a women from Rotherham said Chansiri has it under control … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 hours ago, ANDY said: are no one else’s alarm bells ringing that he hasn’t paid this loan off and now owes closer to 7m than 6m hes skint. No alarm bells for me over this specific issue/ loan. He just looks to have essentially rolled it over. He must be servicing the loan or wouldn’t have been given an opportunity to roll it over. Im still worried about the overall mismanagement of the club over the past few seasons plus the fact that he probably wants more money than we are worth to sell. So plenty to worry over, but this particular transaction doesn’t make me think a meltdown is particularly imminent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubled123456 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 25/11/2021 at 09:37, theowlsman said: Will the ground sharing be at Bramall Lane? I bet they'd welcome that, they've not seen any decent football there for months. Years m8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowls Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 So in summary.. Original Poster adds 2 & 2 together gets 4.5.. raises concern Fellow posters check math and say don’t worry it equals 4 OP continues to argue with his result.. Fellow Poster explain why it’s 4… OP then accepts fellow posters reasoning works, makes sense and gets a sense of why there’s nothing to be worried about. All is well again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, dowls said: So in summary.. Original Poster adds 2 & 2 together gets 4.5.. raises concern Fellow posters check math and say don’t worry it equals 4 OP continues to argue with his result.. Fellow Poster explain why it’s 4… OP then accepts fellow posters reasoning works, makes sense and gets a sense of why there’s nothing to be worried about. All is well again. no. Absolutely not. whilst ever Chansiri is at the helm I will always be worried. I will continue to call these things out. I would rather call them out and be wrong than bury my head in Chansiri’s rectum like his fan boys on here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowls Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, ANDY said: no. Absolutely not. whilst ever Chansiri is at the helm I will always be worried. I will continue to call these things out. I would rather call them out and be wrong than bury my head in Chansiri’s rectum like his fan boys on here. Not being funny mate you will never be happy if you can’t let go (just some) of the past .. trouble is that view of yours is the seed of negativity that turns into toxicity quickly after just a slight dip in form. Loans are probably a more financially viable way for DC ownership of us to function frictionlessly - the days of him using his own cash are gone no doubt party through Covid, partly through fan toxicity, partly through financial efficiency. All that said vigilance like yours also plays a positive role .. keep it up lad .. just try make it come from that positive governance form not the “told you so / doom and gloom” place. UTO 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 41 minutes ago, dowls said: Not being funny mate you will never be happy if you can’t let go (just some) of the past .. trouble is that view of yours is the seed of negativity that turns into toxicity quickly after just a slight dip in form. Loans are probably a more financially viable way for DC ownership of us to function frictionlessly - the days of him using his own cash are gone no doubt party through Covid, partly through fan toxicity, partly through financial efficiency. All that said vigilance like yours also plays a positive role .. keep it up lad .. just try make it come from that positive governance form not the “told you so / doom and gloom” place. UTO Chansiri is the architect of our downfall. Everything that has got us to where we are falls at his feet. I will continue to give 100% support to the team. Home and away. Chansiri will never get my support. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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