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1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said:


Who do you mean?

Mourinho and Van Gaal...

 

People who put demands on the board and won't just go along with the status quo.

 

Do you think Conte would have taken the Spurs job if United were willing to take him? No chance.

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said:

Pep was virtually begging for the job before he went to City, but MUFC were caught napping and City made their move. Quite symbolic of the way the two are now run.


City, Liverpool and Chelsea are so well-run, they’re light years ahead of Man U and everyone else right now. It’s hard to see anyone outside of those 3 winning the PL for a while

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The current "plan" is to have an interim until the end of the season i.e. there is no plan.

 

So what if that interim does ok? Give him the job and end up with another Ole?

 

 

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17 minutes ago, SiJ said:

The current "plan" is to have an interim until the end of the season i.e. there is no plan.

 

So what if that interim does ok? Give him the job and end up with another Ole?

 

 

Allows Mancini to do the World Cup then leave  assuming they get there. Bit like they did with van gaal and Giggs. 

 

needs someone this season though who lacks long term ambition. 

 

 

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Its always easy in hindsight but I think instead of Fergie retiring there should have been a period where he worked with Moyes.

 

Moyes could have had the title of manager to keep face but Fergie could have been involved.

 

The way it was done Moyes looked like a kid who had just won the lottery and hadn't got a clue what to do with his luck.

 

 

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2 hours ago, SiJ said:

Mourinho and Van Gaal...

 

People who put demands on the board and won't just go along with the status quo.

 

Do you think Conte would have taken the Spurs job if United were willing to take him? No chance.

 

 


I mean the squad has changed quite a bit since the Van Gaal days. And Mourinho has been on the slide managerially ever since that bust up he had with the physio at Chelsea.

 

People keep acting like it’s a squad in desperate need of surgery. It finished 2nd last year and they’ve improved it in the summer. A top coach will have them pushing top three imo. Admittedly they’re just short of Chelsea, City and Liverpool. But they’re not far away. 

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6 hours ago, Ellis Rimmer said:

Sir Alex is actually offended that people feel he left the team in bad shape

 

He had won the title by 13 points and added Zaha 

 

The mismanagement afterwards isn't on him

He signed some sh*te torwards the end though, Jones, Smalling etc and was reliant on the old guard 

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5 hours ago, mcmigo said:

I would go for Mancini after the World Cup next season.  


Mancini is a good shout but won City their first Prem title - Brendan Rodgers also gets mentioned, who formerly managed Liverpool 😂 …. Can’t be an idea scenario for Man U fans.

 

Poch also gets mentioned - but I’m not sure that he’s the elite manager some people think - has he proved that yet ? 

 

2 hours ago, beswetherick said:


City, Liverpool and Chelsea are so well-run, they’re light years ahead of Man U and everyone else right now. It’s hard to see anyone outside of those 3 winning the PL for a while


Indeed. With the team Man U had out yesterday SAF would’ve had them competing for the league before Pep turned up. 
 

Man U’s worst nightmare is Pep, Klopp, City’s money, Salah etc …. They’ve upped the stakes and left Man U biting their dust. 

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9 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said:

Did I hear that right, they are planning to appoint someone until the end of the season? 


A few weeks in football eh …. Ronaldo turns up, everyone at the club is buzzing, not long after some poor results and good hidings.., season’s over. 

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7 hours ago, Kopparberg said:


Mancini is a good shout but won City their first Prem title - Brendan Rodgers also gets mentioned, who formerly managed Liverpool 😂 …. Can’t be an idea scenario for Man U fans.

 

Poch also gets mentioned - but I’m not sure that he’s the elite manager some people think - has he proved that yet ? 

 


Indeed. With the team Man U had out yesterday SAF would’ve had them competing for the league before Pep turned up. 
 

Man U’s worst nightmare is Pep, Klopp, City’s money, Salah etc …. They’ve upped the stakes and left Man U biting their dust. 

None of them should be hung up about an ex city or Liverpool manager, Matt busby was a city/Liverpool legend when they appointed him as their manager, and that didn’t turn out too badly for them. Though not expecting many Man Utd fans to know much pre PL football lol 

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17 hours ago, mcmigo said:

I would go for Mancini after the World Cup next season.  He has won the premier league, took a talented but flawed team under mark Hughes and organised them, got them firing.  Italy defensively were so good in the summer when they won the euros. 

Italy have to go through the play offs so he could be available sooner 

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3 hours ago, Skyline said:

Bruce.... 😂

people laugh at that but it’s much smarter than giving it temporarily to someone with no experience 

 

Zidane has done them a favour by ruling himself out

 

Poch apparently keen, I’d be keen to see him back here

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14 hours ago, mcmigo said:

Allows Mancini to do the World Cup then leave  assuming they get there. Bit like they did with van gaal and Giggs. 

 

needs someone this season though who lacks long term ambition. 

 

 


But that means Mancini isn’t available until late Nov, early Dec 2022 if they qualify? WC isn’t next summer when MU plan to appoint someone. 

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Man U are poorly run on the football side but they will make record profits this year on the business side. That is all the Glazers really care about. Woodward was brought in to help facilitate that and has done a good job in making them money. They must have loved having OGS there who wouldnt question them in the slightest, just happy he had that job. 

 

Mourinho constantly called the board out, as did LVG, and Moyes was given no backing. OGS has been given massive backing, has a ridiculously talented squad at his disposal but cannot get consistent results or show there is an obvious style of play they are aiming for. It may be that Ronaldo coming in ruined his plans but he's also shown he cant handle a number of the expensively assembled squad. 

 

It looks like they could get Pochettino in with Zidane replacing him in Paris. It remains to be seen whether Poch can make that step up to the elite level of managers currently in the Premier League.

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38 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said:


But that means Mancini isn’t available until late Nov, early Dec 2022 if they qualify? WC isn’t next summer when MU plan to appoint someone. 

very good point - forgot its a winter WC>

 

 

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2 hours ago, Adem Poric said:

Man U are poorly run on the football side but they will make record profits this year on the business side. That is all the Glazers really care about. Woodward was brought in to help facilitate that and has done a good job in making them money. They must have loved having OGS there who wouldnt question them in the slightest, just happy he had that job. 

 

Mourinho constantly called the board out, as did LVG, and Moyes was given no backing. OGS has been given massive backing, has a ridiculously talented squad at his disposal but cannot get consistent results or show there is an obvious style of play they are aiming for. It may be that Ronaldo coming in ruined his plans but he's also shown he cant handle a number of the expensively assembled squad. 

 

It looks like they could get Pochettino in with Zidane replacing him in Paris. It remains to be seen whether Poch can make that step up to the elite level of managers currently in the Premier League.

I think soccer in the Premier League is now at such a level that a lot is decided by chance. Many teams are very good - even too good. And that's why the coach is not as influential now as he was 10-20 years ago. But maybe I'm wrong. All I'm saying is that internal team relationships are very important to winning.

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So, they finished 2nd in the league last year, then added Varane, Sancho and C.Ronaldo. 

 

You really need to be at least matching that second place, plus a trophy or two.

 

It just shows you what can happen if the players are phoning it in, or don't know what they are supposed to be doing.

 

The new manager needs to get rid of Pogba who they simply won't miss as a player,  and a really brave manager will actually bomb Harry Maguire out of that team , on the basis that..quite frankly...he is absolutely bang average at that level. 

 

De Gea, Wan Bissaka, Varane, Shaw, Fernandes, McTominay, Rashford, Greenwood, Cavani, C.Ronaldo, Sancho...so much talent for a new manager to work with. Another £100 million on a defensive midfielder and a centre half ( to replace Maguire) and you have a frighteningly good first 11. 

 

 

 

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